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Scan001 Confirming the position of the engine in the frame by referencing full-sized layout drawing N.sch.2084.
View original record To BY. from DA. c. to CJ. Hs. X7380 DA3/M4.11.25. EAC. 8. ENGINE POSITION IN FRAME ETC. X. 7380 X. 7770 We send herewith N.sch.2084 shewing a full sized layout of the front end of engine, radiator,…

Scan002 Accompanying schematic N.sch.2090 with information to enable ordering of frame side members.
View original record To BY. from DA. c. to CJ. Hs. +7380 DA3/M19.11.25. EAC.7. FRAME ETC. X.7380 X.7770 We send herewith N.sch.2090 shewing an outline of the frame side members together with information as to the position…

Scan003 Drawing showing the general arrangement of the front end of the frame, detailing steering lock and clearance with balloon tyres.
View original record To BY. from DA. c. to CJ. Hs. X. 7380 DA6/M27.11.25. EAC. 7. FRONT END OF FRAME. We send herewith N.sch.2093 shewing the gen.arrgt. of the front end of the car. We shew 34° lock with a clearance of…

Scan004 Design of the front cross member, radiator, and suspension, referencing schematic N.sch.2103.
View original record To BY. from DA. c. to CJ. Hs. X7380 DA3/10.12.25. EAC.7: FRONT CROSS MEMBER, RADIATOR SUSPENSION ETC. 7350 X.7380 X.7250 We send herewith N.sch.2103., shewing the sheet metal cross member, radiator…

Scan005 Revision to the frame side member for a 66-inch rear spring.
View original record X. 7380 To BY. from DA. c. to CJ. Hs. DAI/M22.12.25. EAC. 7. FRAME SIDE MEMBER. Herewith we send N.sch. 2104 shewing the frame side member revised for a 66" rear spring, in accordance with Mr. Royce's…

Scan006 Investigations and proposals for the EAC.7 frame tie layout, referencing several schematics.
View original record To BY. from DA. c. to CJ. Hs. X.7380 DA7/Ms.1.26. EAC.7. FRAME TIES. We send herewith N.sch.2098 shewing the layout of the EAC.7. tie-bars. We have investigated this layout diagrammatically and find…

Scan007 Rejection of a Hooper body and the urgent search for a suitable alternative for the E.A.C.VIII chassis.
View original record HS V7380 EV1.23.1.26. to C/Hn. from EV. copy to HS. re BODY FOR E.A.C.VIII. We thank you for your C/Hn19/ED1/21.1.26 and the enclosed prints of the bodies which are available. We are sorry to say that…

Scan008 Suggestions for the rear spring front anchorage, awaiting Mr. Royce's feedback.
View original record To BY. from DA/HDY. c. to CJ. Hs. ========== 47380 DA/Hdy1/M17.2.26. BAC.7. REAR SPRING FRONT ANCHORAGE. X.7130 X.7410 X.7380 We send herewith N.sch.2132., 2138 and 2144 shewing suggestions for the…

Scan009 Alternative schemes for a frame gusset for the 2nd cross member.
View original record To BY. from DA/HDY. c. to CJ. Hs. X. 7380 DA/HDY2/M17.2.26. EAC.7. FRAME GUSSET. We send herewith N.sch.2143 shewing an alternative scheme for the frame gusset for the 2nd. cross member. N.sch.2132…

Scan010 Schematics for the rear end of the EAC.7 chassis, noting differences from the EAC.1 model.
View original record To BY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. +7380 DA3/M26.4.26. EAC.7. REAR END. X.7770 X.9720 X.7400 X.7380 X.9380 Herewith we send N.sch.2168/69/70., shewing the rear end of the EAC.7. chassis. N.sch.2168 deals…

Scan011 Pedal design and schematics for the EAC-7 car, noting clutch travel issues.
View original record To BY. from DA+ c. to BJ. Hs. X7380 DA1/M31.5.26. EAC-7 PEDALS. X.8470 X.7380 Herewith we send N.schs. 2197/8/9, shewing the pedals for the above car. The arrangement is approximately the same as…

Scan012 The body subframe scheme for vehicle E.A.C.VII, including welding instructions and component specifications.
View original record to BY. from EV. copy to BJ. and HS. X7380 EV1/11.6.26. BODY SUBFRAME SECRET E.A.C.VII. X.7830. We send herewith N.Scheme 2207. shewing the body subframe for E.A.C.VII. We wish to make all the full…

Scan013 Experimental bodies, refuting an argument about a subframe's weakness and discussing future construction.
View original record To Hs. from DA/EV. X7380 DA/EV1/M29.6.26. RE: EXPERIMENTAL BODIES. X.8830 X.8380 X.7830 X.7380 We thank you for hs4/LG25.6.26. Your memo. enables us to prove that the argument used by Barkers' to…

Scan014 Proposed experimental method for stiffening the front scuttle armature using a cast dash.
View original record To BY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. (X7380) DA3/M17.7.26. SCUTTLE ARMATURES WITH CAST DASHES. X. 7380 X. 7500 X. 8500 X. 7940 Herewith we send N.sch.2236 shewing the proposed method of stiffening the front…

Scan015 Modifications to rear brake operating gear and frame gussets to fit hydraulic shock dampers.
View original record To BY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. X7380 DA3/M23.7.26. EAC.7. REAR BRAKES. X.360 X.380 Herewith we send N.sch. 2232 shewing the modifications to the rear brake operating gear and frame gussets, which are…

Scan016 Modification to the frame cross members to prevent a bolt from fouling the subframe.
View original record To BY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. X. 7380 DA8/M23. 7. 26. EAC-7 FRAME CROSS MEMBERS. With reference to the top bolt of the rear spring front anchorage fouling the subframe, we send herewith N. sch. 2242…

Scan017 Modifications for a subframe, specifically the position of a middle support and a front support modification.
View original record To BY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. X.7380 DA7/M23.7.26. EAC-7 - SUBFRAME. We send herewith print of N.sch.2207 on which we have marked in pencil the position of a middle support for the subframe should it…

Scan018 Modifications to Phantom and EAC. 8 subframes to address frame breakage and rubber support issues.
View original record To EY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. +7380E DA5/M23.7.26. PHANTOM AND EAC. 8. SUBFRAMES. X.8380 X.7380 We send herewith N. sch. 2241 shewing a modification to the rear supports of the subframe on the above…

Scan019 Requesting a modification to the position of a subframe's second crossmember.
View original record to BY from Da/EV. copy to HS. X7380 EV1/16.8.26. RE SUBFRAME E.A.C.VII. We have now made a Coachbuilder's Print for the subframe of EAC.XII of which we presume that you are now making one for the…

Scan020 Modification to a subframe second cross member dimension due to auxiliary seats.
View original record BY. FROM DA/EV. X7380 DA/EV1/M3.9.26. Copy to - HS. ORIGINAL EAC.7. SUBFRAME. X7380 Further to our EV1/16826., we have now had further consultations with the coachbuilders, and find that we wish to…

Scan021 Drawing N.sch. 2257 for a 3rd cross member, questioning the feasibility of making sharp bends in the tube.
View original record X. 7380 To BY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. DA8/M3. 9.26. EAC. 7. 3rd. CROSS MEMBER. Herewith we send N.sch. 2257 shewing the proposed set in the above cross member. The reason for making this drawing is…

Scan022 Strengthening the front and rear step irons and positioning the intermediate ones.
View original record X.7380 To BY. from DAS c. to BJ. Hs. DA7/143.9.26. EAC.7. STEP IRONS. We send herewith N.schs. 2259/60 shewing respectively the front and rear stepirons. We have taken the opportunity of strengthening…

Scan023 Confirming the dispatch of a subframe for EAC.7 to Messrs. Hoopers, Coachbuilders, Chelsea.
View original record X7380 To DA/EV. from Hs. Hs1/LG22.9.26. EAC-7 - SUBFRAME. X7380 We have despatched the subframe suitable for EAC.7. to Messrs. Hoopers, Coachbuilders, Chelsea. Hs.

Scan024 Standardisation of chassis parts, specifically the front wing stay.
View original record RR 755 (10H) (DB130 12-9-24) MS 301225 X7380 COMPLETED 23.2.27 STANDARDISATION of CHASSIS PARTS. Date 22.9.26 Description of Parts FRONT WING STAY. X No. 7380 Drawing No. N.sch. 2136 Origin: Complete…

Scan025 Issues with step irons on various car models and proposing design improvements.
View original record 47380 To R. from DA/EV. c. to BJ. Wor. Hs. C. BY. LHS. PN. SG. DA/EV2/M11.3.27. RE. STEP IRONS. X.8380 X.5380 X.7380 20 HP. The 20 HP. stepirons have always been considered by the coachbuilders to be…

Scan026 Confirmation note typed onto a copy of a memo regarding chassis delivery and testing arrangements.
View original record JS/LG 16.9.38 CHASSIS WHC 1 We have instructions under your note of the 20th August to have a MULLINER saloon on this chassis to be delivered to you in London. We will arrange for this. DA/EV. CHASSIS…

Scan027 Instructing the production and fitting of parts to an experimental chassis to improve steering geometry.
View original record C. Hs/Rm. X7380 BY/HEB11/M.2.5.27. RECEIVED MAY 3 1927 E.A.C.7. CHASSIS. FRAMES AND FITTINGS SEC:7000. Further to our memo' BY/HEB6/M.28.4.27, please receive one blue print of each of the following:-…

Scan028 Lowering the chassis frame using a smaller back axle bevel gear and a hypoid gear.
View original record To DA. from R. c. to BJ. Hs. BY. +7380 LOWERING OF CHASSIS FRAME. X. 8380 X. 5380 X. 7380 X. 2066 It is quite evident that we must on any future chassis get the frame lower. To do this it is necessary…

Scan029 Issue of new and modified parts to improve the steering geometry on the E.A.C.7 chassis.
View original record X7380 C. Ha/Rm. BY/HEB1/M.4.6.27. E.A.C.7. CHASSIS. FRAMES AND FITTINGS SEC:7000. Further to our memo' BY/HEB6/M.28.4.27, and BY/HEB11/M.2.5.27, by which we issued a complete new Rear Anchor Bracket…

Scan030 Producing frames and side members for experimental car models EAC.10 and EAC.12.
View original record To BY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. X7380 DA2/EV8.7.27. RE. FRAME FOR EAC.10. X.7380 X.2066 We send herewith N.sch.2429 shewing the frame for EAC.10. and EAC.12. In order to avoid making more dies for…

Scan031 Request to build a half-size model of an 'X' shaped frame cross member for torsional stiffness testing.
View original record BY¾ from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. X7380 DA3/M25.11.27. EAC.10 FRAME CROSS MEMBERS. X. 7380 X. 8380 Herewith we send N. schs. 2512 and 2513, shewing the 'X' shaped 4th. cross member in the EAC.10 frame. R.…

Scan032 The supply and fitting of step brackets and running boards for a sports chassis.
View original record BY. HS. from DA/EV. +7380 DA/EV1/M22.12.27. RE. STEP BRACKETS & RUNNING BOARDS: X. 7390 X. 7380 We send herewith N.schs. 2529/30 shewing the step brackets which we wish you to provide on the sports…

Scan033 Issues with a dummy Alpine Sports Chassis at Hooper's, proposing modifications and requesting a correct second dummy for Barker's.
View original record +7380 Ms. from DA/EV. c. to BY. RE. DUMMY OF ALPINE SPORTS CHASSIS. X.7770 X.7380 X.7500 X.7390 We have got this dummy at Hooper's and have not found it of any real use to us because it has not got a…

Scan034 Arrangement of a tool box step and its associated brackets.
View original record Hs to from EV. X7380? EV3/30.12.27. copy to Hs. TOOL BOX STEP. E.A.C 14. N. Sch 2571 We send herewith the arrangement of the tool box step. As Derby are only making the brackets for carrying this…

Scan035 Schematic N.sch.2541, which details the front anchorage of the rear springs and brake carrier levers.
View original record 47380 BY. From DA. c. to BJ. Hs. DA1/M31.1.28. EAC.10 FRONT ANCHORAGE OF REAR SPRINGS. & BRAKE CARRIER LEVERS ETC. X.7410 X.7380 We send herewith N.sch.2541 shewing the front anchorage of the rear…

Scan036 Recent experiments and conclusions on engine mounting.
View original record R. from E. c. to BJ. Hs. Rn. X7380 E1/M4.2.28. EAC.10 ENGINE MOUNTING. X.7380 X.7005 X.634 X.7830 In discussing recent experiments on engine mountings during visits to Derby, we arrived at the…

Scan037 Engine mounting, referencing experimental observations on torque reaction and frame distortion.
View original record +7380 To E. from Hs/Rn. Hs/Rnl/LG20.2.28. EAC.1C ENGINE MOUNTING. +7005 With reference to E1/M4.2.28. From our experimental observations on torque reaction and frame distortion, we do believe that the…

Scan038 Stability and adjustable length of the Phantom Sports steering column.
View original record DA. HS. from R. c. to BJ. Wor. BY. E. +7380 RL/M1.3.28. PHANTOM SPORTS STEERING COLUMN. X.6430 X.7430 I noticed that the steering column was not as steady on this car as on my car at Le Canadel. Can…

Scan039 Engine suspension for the EAC.10 model, particularly the use of rubber mountings to mitigate torsion from chassis frame twist.
View original record R. from E. c. to BJ. Hs. BY. 47380 E6/M7.3.28. EAC.10 ENGINE SUSPENSION. X.7005 X.7380 As a result of the experience with EAC.14 engine mounting, it is found desirable to use rubbers of very high…

Scan040 Static tests of the Phantom Sports Steering Column to assess movement due to frame deflection.
View original record To R. from Hs. c.c. to BJ. Wor. c.c. to H. DA. c.c. to BY. X7380 Hsl/LG9. 3. 28. PHANTOM SPORTS STEERING COLUMN. X7430 With reference to R1/M.3.28. In addition to our report on the tests carried out…

Scan041 Static stiffness tests on a Continental Phantom frame, measuring frame deflection and steering column movement.
View original record Hs/Tsn/LG9.3.28. CONTINENTAL PHANTOM FRAME - STIFFNESS TESTS ETC: A series of static tests have been done on complete chassis in order to settle two points :- (1) To determine the amount of frame…

Scan042 Experiments on frame twist and the torsional stiffness of a chassis.
View original record contd :- -2- the steering wheel to a more serious extent on the sports than on the standard car. This experiment takes no account of the column 'dithering' due to insufficient support, but was merely…

Scan043 Frame twist percentages for various front wheel lift scenarios on different chassis.
View original record contd :- -3- In the following table α is the twist at A. and β that at B. β/α is shown as a percentage for various front wheel lifts. 17-EX. Wheel lifted. β/α % average. O.S. 2" 56.6 ) 4" 62.1 ) 60.3%…

Scan044 Requesting the return of an experimental model frame cross member for testing.
View original record To DA. from Hs/Rn. X7380 Hs/Rnl/LGM/9.3.28. XB380 [crossed out] We should like you to let us have the experimental model frame cross member back if you can spare it in order that we may carry out some…

Scan045 Disassembly of a frame cross and suggesting modifications to reduce its components for testing.
View original record Hs/Rm. from DA. 47380 DA2/M22.3.28. X. 8380 X. 7380 Replying to Ms/RmL/LG19.3.28., we are returning the frame cross under separate cover, as requested. You will see that we have had it to pieces, and…

Scan046 The layout, geometry, and components for the 'SS' side steering tube.
View original record 47380 BY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. DAA/M26.3.28. 'SS' SIDE STEERING TUBE. X.7450 X.7410 X.7380 Herewith we send N.sch.2567 shewing the layout of the steering, side steering tube, front end of frame etc.…

Scan047 Issues with a weak forward body support spring and requesting a modification for the Barker car.
View original record Hs. from DA/EV. c. to BJ. R. BY. X7380 DA/EV2/M27.3.28. EAC.14 - FORWARD BODY SUPPORT. X.7530 X.7580 X.7410 We note that the 50 lbs. spring was too weak and that the body lifted too vigorously from…

Scan048 Proposals for the rear end of the frame and its various components.
View original record 47380 To BY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. DA3/M31.3.28. EAC.10 REAR END OF FRAME, ETC. X.7600 X.7380 X.7400 Herewith we send N.schs. 2556/7/8/9/71., shewing our proposals for the spare wheel carrier,…

Scan049 Modifications to the 'SS' front axle and frame, including lowering the axle and bearing options.
View original record X7380 DA. HS. BY. from R. c. to BJ. Wor. E. R6/M7.4.28. 'SS' FRONT AXLE AND FRAME. X. 7420 X. 7380 I like the axle .750 lower - i.e. new forging because it will improve the appearance, as the same…

Scan050 Design issues and proposals for the rear end, wheel carrier, and luggage grid of the SS. EAC.10 chassis.
View original record To R. from Ev. c. to BJ. Hs. +7380 EV1/14.4.28. EAC.10 'SS'. REAR END. X.7600 X.7400 X.7380 We are sorry to have disappointed you with our designs for the rear end of the SS. EAC.10 chassis, by…

Scan051 Luggage carrier schemes and the urgent need for a rear-end chassis frame design.
View original record contd :- -2- carrier and the luggage platform. The coachbuilder would either provide luggage space in a boot extension of the body or in a specially shaped Brooks Type Trunk. This third scheme is…

Scan052 Pending chassis designs and strongly recommending the use of subframes for body mounting.
View original record To R. from Hs. c. to BJ. Wor. c. to E. DA. c. to BY. /7380 Hs3/LGS.5.28. EAC.10. X.7770 X.7380 X.7830 We are looking into the question of what designs we are still waiting for before one of these…

Scan053 Sending items N/s. chs. 2593/4 for safekeeping in relation to 'SB' Lower Appearance.
View original record +7380 BY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. DA2/M5.5.28. "SB" LOWER APPEARANCE. X.7770 X.615 X.7380 Herewith we send N/s. chs. 2593/4 for safe custody, no work to be done on them at the moment. DA.

Scan054 Proposal for the design of an 'SS' subframe and production of two examples for specific car bodies.
View original record X7380 ORIGINAL EV4/7.5.28. to Hs. from Ev. copy to Sr. RE "SS" SUBFRAME. We propose making a design for the subframe for "SS" as soon as we have completed the design of the rear end of India 3. We…

Scan055 Rebuilding of chassis 15-EX with a long frame, new radiator, and 'E' type steering.
View original record 47380 Hs. from DA/EV. c. to - BY. DA/EV1/M16.5.28. 15-EX. X.7770 X.7430 X.7380 X.7250 You told us that 15-EX will be rebuilt as an ordinary chassis, not a sports chassis, and that it will have a long…

Scan056 Static tests conducted on an X-shaped cross member to improve frame rigidity and steering.
View original record To R. from Hs/Rm. c.c. to D.J. WGT. c.c. to D.A. EY. c.c. to E. X7380 Hs/RmL/L.19.5.28. X SHAPED CROSS MEMBER. X1131 We have conducted a number of static tests on the X shaped cross member. Attached…

Scan057 Test results for a model frame cross member under various load and configuration conditions.
View original record 11.5.28. CROSS MEMBER TESTS - MODEL FRAME. Test No. 1. X member complete, including tubular member. " " 2. Tubular member removed. " " 3. Diagonal bracers removed. " " 4. Front, rear, and side gussets…

Scan058 Diagram illustrating the method for testing a 4-inch cross member on a model frame, with a list of test procedures.
View original record 16-5-28 IH 1ST TEST CROSS MEMBER COMPLETE IM 2ND TEST TUBULAR MEMBER A REMOVED IN 3RD TEST DIAGONAL BRACERS B REMOVED (4 OFF) IN 4TH TEST FRONT REAR & SIDE GUSSETS C REMOVED IH 5TH TEST A B & C…

Scan059 Results of bending and shear tests on an 'X' shaped frame cross member.
View original record To R. from Hs/Rn. c.c. G.S. Woy. E. DA. BY. X7380 Hs/Rml/LG23.5.28. FRAME TESTS. X8380 We attach herewith two further tests on the 'X' shaped cross member. The bending test does not seem to have a…

Scan060 Model frame bending test results comparing a frame with an 'X' member to one with two extra tubular members.
View original record MODEL FRAME TESTS. Bending test. Frame horizontal. One channel clamped to bed, each transverse member supported on a roller at the centre, free channel loaded at centre of X; member. TEST WITH 'X'…

Scan061 Diagram illustrating a load-bearing structure with rollers and extra tubular members.
View original record LOAD, A, B, C, EXTRA TUBULAR MEMBERS., ROLLERS, CLAMPED HERE

Scan062 Shearing test report on a model frame, measuring deflection under load with different tubular members.
View original record MODEL FRAME TESTS. Shearing test. Frame vertical. One channel fixed to angle plate, the load being applied to the other, at its lowest extremity. | Load lbs. | X member & front tubular member. | | X…

Scan063 Querying frame heights and buffer clearance for model EAC.10.
View original record To D.A. from Hs/Rm. X7380 Hs/Rm6/LG31.5.28. FRAME HEIGHTS. X7380 X7410 We are not quite certain how much lower the frame of EAC.10 will be. Attached are some figures given to us by the D.O. Are these…

Scan064 Diagram comparing the frame heights for three different 40/50 HP chassis models.
View original record FRAME HEIGHTS 40/50 EAC7 22.825 TO GROUND EAC10 SS 22.500 TO GROUND F2B PHANTOM 23.325 TO GROUND

Scan065 The reverse of a document showing two identical Print Room date stamps from Derby.
View original record ROYCE, LIMITED PRINT ROOM, 31 MAY 1928 DERBY. 536

Scan066 Frame heights, modifications to the front axle, buffer clearance, and the potential use of hypoids to lower the chassis.
View original record Hs/Rn. from DA. 47380 DA5/M5. 6. 28. FRAME HEIGHTS. X. 7380 X. 7420 X. 5380 X. 615 X. 2066 Replying to Hs/Rn6/LG31.5.28., at the present moment 'SS' is 22.5" from the ground, and we have obtained this…

Scan067 The 'SS' Battery Cross Member, providing updated schematic information and design considerations.
View original record BY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. X. 7380 DA2/M15.6.28. "SS" BATTERY CROSS MEMBER. Herewith we send N.schs. 2631 giving the additional information as to the battery cross member which was promised on…

Scan068 Tests and modifications to improve the steering on the 40/50 HP model, addressing high-speed wobble and ride comfort.
View original record To R. from Hs/Rm. c.c. to BJ. Wor. c.c. to E. DA. c.c. to BY. OY. c.c. to PN. CWB. 47380 Hs/Rm2/LG5.7.28. 40/50 HP. STEERING. 47430 7457 Two factors have always limited the selectivity of the RR.…

Scan069 Vehicle frame stiffness, suspension damping, and handling characteristics at different speeds, comparing two experimental models.
View original record contd :- -2- The frame stiffness is worth having, because if we revert to single point mounting, which we can do in a few minutes on our existing experimental arrangement, we get more road shocks.…

Scan070 Further tests concerning wheel balance, frame stiffening, and steering characteristics.
View original record contd :- -3- From these further tests we still consider that having the tyres 1.75" out of centre point is a definite advantage; as you suggested we put the wheels out of balance and the consequent…

Scan071 Graph plotting torque versus twist angle to compare the torsional rigidity of different frame configurations.
View original record FOR THESE TESTS THE FRAME WAS SUPPORTED AT THE REAR ON JACKS THEREBY ELIMINATING THE FLEXIBILITY OF THE REAR SPRINGS. LOAD LEGEND: SOLID LINE: STANDARD FRAME DASHED LINE: PLUS X MEMBER UNDER RADIATOR…

Scan072 Blank document page with a Print Room receipt stamp.
View original record ROLLS-ROYCE, LIMITED PRINT ROOM 5 JUL 1928 DERBY.

Scan073 Blueprint of an X-shaped cross-member fitted to the 10-EX chassis.
View original record ENGINE MOUNTING IS PIVOTTED HERE 4" DEEP TO OBTAIN 2-POINT FRONT MOUNTING, DOWELS ARE INSERTED HERE. FISH PLATES X-SHAPED CROSS-MEMBER FITTED TO 10-EX

Scan074 Faint document page with a red ink stamp from the print room.
View original record ROLLS-ROYCE LIMITED PRINT ROOM, 5 JUL 1928 DERBY.

Scan075 Modifications to the 'SS' brake differentials and associated components.
View original record +7380. BY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. 'SS' BRAKE DIFFERENTIALS. When R. was in France he instructed us to make some modifications to the original arrangement of the brake differentials, and we send…

Scan076 Design changes to the 'SS' radiator, cross member, and suspension, comparing alternative sketches.
View original record BY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. X7380 DAL/M29.8.28. 'SS' RADIATOR, CROSS MEMBER, AND SUSPENSION. X.7250 X.7380 Herewith we send N.sch.2683 shewing the radiator and suspension and radiator cross member. It…

Scan077 Requesting immediate clarification on a revised front cross member to prevent work on cancelled parts.
View original record X7380 DA c. Hs. BY11/G.11.9.28. From N. Sch. 2684 it would appear that the front cross member which has been instructed is being revised, as apparently you have moved the front cross member a…

Scan078 The design and procurement of bodies and subframes for two EAC.10 cars.
View original record Hs. from DA/EV. c. to BY. X7380. DA/EV1/M10.9.28. EAC.10 FIRST CARS. X.7630 X.7380 X.7770 We are designing bodies and subframes for two EAC.10 cars, and hope to give all the particulars of the first…

Scan079 The numbering of the first three EAC.10 cars and the specifications for a coachbuilder's dummy frame.
View original record X7360 To DA/EV. from Hs. Hs1/LG12.9.28. EAC.10 - FIRST CARS. X7770 X7830 The numbers of the three EAC.10 cars will be 18-EX, 19-EX and 20-EX. 18-EX will be the car for R. As regards the dummy frame…

Scan080 Schematics for the 'SS' frame, including radiator cross members, suspension, and front cross member.
View original record X.7380 BY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. DA4/M13.9.28. 'SS' FRAME. In reply to BYll/Gll.9.28, we have sent you N.sch.2683 shewing the radiator cross members and suspension, and now we are sending you…

Scan081 Changing wheel and tyre sizes for the first 'SS' model to achieve a lower frame height.
View original record Hs. from DA/EV. c. to EY. SG. 47380 DA/EV1/MG.9.28. 'SS'. X.7770 X.7380 X.7820 X.615 X.7810 The first SS., which R. hopes to have in the south of France, will have a 4-seater saloon cabriolet body of…

Scan082 Sketch for the 'SS' front dumb iron and front horn, with a proposed aesthetic modification.
View original record BY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. X7380 DA2/IMD.9.28. 'SS' FRONT DUMB IRON ETC. X. 7380 X. 7550 We send herewith N.sch.2697 shewing the front dumb iron and front horn. The shackle is the same as that now…

Scan083 Alteration of drilling on an 'X' shaped cross member in the frame.
View original record BY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. X.7380 DAL/M13.9.28. 'SS' 'X' SHAPED CROSS MEMBER IN FRAME. Herewith we send N.sch. 2707 on which we have shewn the revised support for the silencer. The object of sending…

Scan084 Continued use of subframes, a new design for experimental cars 18-EX and 19-EX, and body production schedules.
View original record Hs. from DA/EV. 47380 DA/EV1/M14.9.28. c. to HY. EAC.10 FIRST CARS. X.7770 X.7380 X.7830 Thank you for your HsL/LG12.9.28. We have discussed the subject matter with R., and the only definite ruling we…

Scan085 Requesting four more pairs of S.S. chassis frames and detailing their production process.
View original record ROY. X 7380 c. RHC. c. Hs. BY2/G.30.10.28. S.S. CHASSIS. Please note that we want four more pairs of frames F.77470/1. These frames are produced by making a pressing to F.73986/7 and working the frame…

Scan086 Confirmation of a wire requesting the expected date for a subframe for chassis 18EX.
View original record X7380 CONFIRMATION OF WIRE. HIVES. ROYCAR. DERBY. WW. 10. 10. 28. PLEASE WIRE DATE WE MAY EXPECT SUBFRAME FOR 18EX. URGENT. EVERNDEN.

Scan087 Telegram urgently requesting the expected delivery date for a subframe for model 18= EX.
View original record B or C Charges to pay s. d. 12 11d This form, and if possible the envelope, should accompany any enquiry respecting this Telegram. From Pm / from L POST OFFICE TELEGRAPHS. X7380 No. Office Stamp 0170…

Scan088 From Hs. to DA/EV. regarding the delayed despatch of the subframe for 18-EX.
View original record To DA/EV. from Hs. X7350 Hs4/T18.10.28. The subframe for 18-EX will be despatched to Barkers tomorrow (Friday). We are sorry we are slightly over our original promise, but there was a certain amount…

Scan089 Weight of a subframe for car 18-EX and a query about ordering accessories.
View original record Y7380 To DA/EV. from Hs. Hsl/LG20.10.28. SUBFRAME FOR 18-EX. X7380 X.3594 We took the weight of the subframe before it was despatched to Barkers - this was found to be 90 lbs. We should like to know…

Scan090 Advising to have 1500 lbs. rear springs available for 'SS' body cars which are being fitted with subframes.
View original record To BY. from Hs/Rm. X7380 Hs/Rm4/LG31.10.28. X7410 In view of the fact that all the 'SS' bodies are going to have subframes, we consider it would perhaps be advisable to have a pair of 1500 lbs. rear…

Scan091 Use and benefits of steel underframes, and proposing to build a stock of 50 for the changeover to the SS Phantom model.
View original record Hs. BY. from R. c. to BJ. Wor. c. to DA. SG. c. to C. √7380 R3/M7.11.28. UNDERFRAMES. X.7380 X.5380 X.7880 It would seem certain that the use of a steel underframe improves the present coachbuilders…

Scan092 Confirmation of a wire regarding subframe and body production schedules and delivery dates.
View original record CONFIRMATION OF WIRE. X7380 WW. 9. 11. 28. HIVES. ROYCAR. DERBY. BARKERS CERTAIN NOV. 23rd. HOOPERS LOST WEEKS AWAITING SUBFRAME. DELIVERY XMAS. MAKE THREE SUBFRAMES N. SCH. 2694. ORDER DIES THIRD…

Scan093 The delivery schedule for subframes promised to London for Hoopers.
View original record To RHC. from Hs/Rn. X7380 11 Hs/Rn/LGLD. 1.Nov.28. SUBFRAMES. London have been promised one subframe for Hoopers by Nov. the 20th. i.e. in addition to the one despatched on the 10th. and three others…

Scan094 Confirming a telegram and telephone conversations regarding the dispatch schedule for experimental subframes and the acceptance of an enclosed limousine body from Hoopers.
View original record X7380 Cx/Hn5/JL.10.11.28. EV. Copy to Hs. Re: EXPERIMENTAL BODIES. I confirm my telegram to you of this morning as follows:- "HIVES CONFIRMS SUBFRAME WILL BE DISPATCHED BY TWENTIETH STOP FRAME FOR…

Scan095 Hooper enclosed limousine body for the 3rd 'SS' chassis 20-KX, detailing subframe delivery and completion deadlines.
View original record To BY. from Hs. c. to RHC. 47380 Hs2/LG12.11.28. 47830 The body for the 3rd. 'SS' chassis 20-KX is to be a Hooper enclosed limousine. It is to have a 'C' steering wheel. Subframe to N.sch.2694.…

Scan096 The advantages of using body subframes for reducing noise and simplifying body fitting.
View original record To R. from Hs. c. to BJ. LHS. c. to C. SG. c. to HO. DA/EV. X7380 HS3/LG13.11.28. BODY SUBFRAMES. X5380 (crossed out) X8350 Attc. corresn in original Over four years ago we went to a lot of trouble to…

Scan097 Arrangement for the collection of two sub-frames by coachbuilders Barkers and Hoopers for specific car numbers.
View original record JP. Copy to RV. Copy to Hs. Y7380 SUB FRAMES. With reference to the two sub-frames you recently received from W., we have asked Barkers to collect one and Hoopers the other. On your Delivery Notes…

Scan098 Request to make a subframe to schedule N.sch.2695 for chassis 23.EX.
View original record To RHC. from Hs/Rn. X7380 Hs/Rn9/LG13. 12. 28. X4663 Will you please make a subframe to N.sch.2695. This is for 23. EX. Hs/Rn.

Scan099 Analysis of 'radiator shiver' and vibrations relating to the axle, frame, and engine on the 20 HP model.
View original record Hs. DA. FROM R. BY. 47380 R2/M/17.12.28. 20 HP. AND 'SS'. X.7005 X.7380 X.5005 X.7250 RADIATOR SHIVER. (1) The axle with wheels and springs complete has a definite period on the road. (2) The front…

Scan100 'SS' Subframe, modifications for experimental chassis 23-EX and 24-EX, and print alterations.
View original record Hs/Rm. from DA/EV. c. to BY. SG. c. to CX/Hn. X7380 DA/EVs/M418.12.28. 'SS' SUBFRAME. X.7380 X.7830 We thank you for your Hs/RnLO/LG13.12.28. We agree to make the first subframe cross member…

Scan101 Confirmation of wire regarding the construction of an open body for chassis 23-EX by Carlton Carriage.
View original record X7380 Y7830 CONFIRMATION OF WIRE. HIVES. ROYCAR. DERBY. WW. 20. 12. 28. CARLTON CARRIAGE WILLESDEN WILL MAKE OPEN BODY FOR 23-EX BY JAN. THIRTIETH PROVIDED THEY RECEIVE SUBFRAME BY DEC.27. EVERNDEN.

Scan102 Problems with coachbuilder-supplied bodies for 'SS' chassis.
View original record To DA/EV. from Hs. c. to BY. c. to Wor. c. to Sg. (handwritten) X7380 Hs2/LG27.12.28. BODIES FOR 'SS' CHASSIS. (handwritten) X7830 We are surprised when you make the statement that we have sent…

Scan103 Letter addressing inaccuracies in subframes and the plan to correct them during the Christmas holiday.
View original record contd :- -2- for this work to be carried on during the whole of the Christmas holiday in order to correct these faults. We are sure the inaccuracies you have attributed to us on subframes are due to…

Scan104 Note confirming the delivery of a sub-frame for a 23-EX Open Tourer to the Carlton Carriage Company.
View original record W Copy to Hs. EV. (crossed out) Y7380 Ox/Hn4/EDI/31-12-28. 23-EX. OPEN TOURER. Please note the sub-frame for the above reached Lillie Hall and was delivered to the Carlton Carriage Company before noon…

Scan105 'SS' engine mounting, vibrations, and potential alternatives to the standard Phantom chassis.
View original record Hs. E. ) FROM R. BY. DA. ) c. to BJ. Wor. c. to SG. C. 47380 RL/M4.1.29. X.7005 'SS' ENGINE MOUNTING. X.7250 X.7380 We ought to be better off than standard Phantom because we can have what that…

Scan106 'SS' and 20 HP engine mounting, frame flexibility, vibrations, and proposed rubber-based solutions.
View original record +7380- R1/M4.1.29. Hs. E. BA. EY. from R. c. to BJ. Wor. Sg. c. to FN. CWB. C. 'SS' AND 20 HP. X.7005 ENGINE MOUNTING ETC. X.5005 X.7380 Apparently there was truth in the idea that the frame…

Scan107 Design of an engine mounting back plate and rubber supports.
View original record -2- contd :- The back plate must locate the engine. This might be bent up at the end to form surfaces and have angles bolted to the frame between which the rubber could fit by being bent the same way…

Scan108 Design and potential improvements for car and aero engine mountings.
View original record E. RG. Hs. BY. from R. +7380 RL/M23.1.29. c. to BJ. Wor. Sg. c. to PN. CWB. c. to Mrl Claremont. 'SS' - CAR ENGINE MOUNTING - (AND PERHAPS X.7005 AERO ENGINE DITTO). X.7380 Probably we have settled…

Scan109 Technical memorandum detailing the design and installation of the 'SS' engine mounting and rear engine feet.
View original record R. from E. c. to BJ. Hs. BY. X7360 E5/M28.1.29. 'SS' ENGINE MOUNTING. X.7005 X.7380 We send you herewith print of Led.264s shewing the rear engine feet for the above. These feet are mounted on rubbers…

Scan110 Design details and sales viability for an SS chassis open touring body.
View original record DA/EV. HS. BY. } FROM R. +7380 R1/M.2.29. c. to SG. Wor. E. SS. CHASSIS OPEN TOURING BODY. X.7830 X.7380 Besure you do not have any more ironmongery on this subframe than is necessary. Where the body…

Scan111 Design and challenges of an 'SS' engine mounting system, considering dampers, rubber, and frame stiffness.
View original record E. DA. } HS. BY. } FROM R. C. to Sg. Cx to Wor. 47380. R5/M1.2.29. 'SS' ENGINE MOUNTING. X.7005 X.235 X.7380 We seem limited because of the front hydraulic dampers. I suppose they cannot possibly be…

Scan112 Agreed modifications to subframes for SS and India bodies.
View original record To BY. from DA/EV. c. to Hs. X7380 DA/EV6/M5.2.29. RE. SUBFRAMES. X.5380 X.7380 As a result of our experiences with the mounting of SS. and India bodies we agree to the following modifications to the…

Scan113 Gearbox removal by lifting the body, and the design of the front crossmember.
View original record contd :- -2- a detachable front crossmember to the subframe, unless it is absolutely essential. We agree that the gearbox must be capable of being removed without removing the unit. This would appear…

Scan114 Recommendation for a detachable front subframe cross-member to facilitate gearbox removal.
View original record Da By WOR / HS X7380 ~~To HSY from RHC.~~ RHC3/BE14. 2. 29. "S.S" SUBFRAME ~~X7310~~ X7830 In order to facilitate the removal of the "SS" Gear Box, when engine is in chassis, we would recommend that a…

Scan115 Urgent requirements for a side wheel carrier and a detachable cross member.
View original record To DA/EV. from Da. +7380 +7600 At Derby. Dal/LGL.3.29. At a conference here today, it was decided that they wanted the side wheel carrier urgently. Could you please get on with this assuming that the…

Scan116 Letter to Messrs. Barker & Co. Ltd. confirming the collection of a sub-frame for experimental chassis No. 24-EX.
View original record W/Hs X7380 Cx/Hn19/BDI 3rd March 1929 Messrs. Barker & Co. Ltd., OLAF STREET, W. 11. Dear Sirs:- EXPERIMENTAL SALOON NO. 24-EX. Confirming our telephone conversation of this morning, will you please…

Scan117 Investigation and proposed trial of tubular cross members to eliminate radiator 'shimmy' on an SS frame.
View original record X. 7380 R. from DA. DAL/M11.3.29. c. to SG. BY. Hs. SS. FRAME CROSS MEMBER. As the results of the road testing seemed to point to the elimination of the cross as being the best solution, at any rate…

Scan118 Delay in modifications for the 'SS' car for France and the feasibility of production.
View original record To Wor. from Hs/Rn. Y7380 Hs/Rml/LG14.3.29. 'SS' CAR FOR FRANCE. X 7380 / X 7941 In making the modifications to the car without the cross, which we hope to take to France on Saturday, we find that we…

Scan119 Copy of a telegram instructing a change in frame design from a cross member to large tubes.
View original record HS BM COPY OF TELEGRAM RECEIVED FROM R. 14.3.29. X7380 ROYCAR. DERBY. ANGLETERRE. PREPARE TO ABANDON CROSS IN FRAME REVERTING TO LARGE TUBES.

Scan120 Chassis stiffness, periodicity, and testing methods for the 20 HP & SS Chassis.
View original record HS. DA. FROM R. BY. c. to SG. Wor. E. X7360 R1/M14.3.29. 20 HP. & SS. CHASSIS. X.7380 X.5380 X.7420 I telegraphed "prepare to abandon cross in frame and revert to substantial tubular cross members". A…

Scan121 Continued note on the performance characteristics of smaller road wheels.
View original record contd :- -2- The smaller road wheels being inferior suggests to me that they are more flexible and resilient on the road and probably somewhat more liable to bounce, and at a lower speed than their…

Scan122 Confirming instructions from a telegram regarding chassis modifications, spring stiffness, and connecting rods.
View original record BY. HS. from DA. X7380 DA1/M22.3.29. SS. FRAME. X. 7380 X. 7520 X. 7410 We have received the following telegram from R :- "DAY - CAR WITHOUT CROSS MEMBER QUITE SATISFACTORY YOUR SPRING LUBRICATION HAS…

Scan123 Use of tubular cross members to improve chassis stiffness and manage vibration.
View original record DA. HS. BY. c. to SG. Wor. X7380 R2/M25.3.29. SS. AND C4. CROSS MEMBERS. X.7380 X.5380 Your suggestion of trying if we can do better with greater stiffness with the tubular type is good, and Hs. has…

Scan124 With diagram detailing modifications to 'SS' short chassis frame side members.
View original record X. 7380 BY. Hs. from DA. DA4/M27.3.29. 'SS' SHORT CHASSIS - FRAME SIDE MEMBERS ETC. With reference to the SS. chassis with 144" wheelbase, of which we understand you are putting in hand a certain…

Scan125 Requesting the manual production of 4 sets of 'SS' tubular cross members due to a four-week delivery delay for parts for experimental cars.
View original record To RHC. from Hs/Rm. 47380 Hs/Rm4/LG27.3.29. 'SS' - TUBULAR CROSS MEMBERS X 7380 On making enquiries in the O.O. we find that they do not anticipate being able to deliver bent tubes and end forgings…

Scan126 Modified 20 HP car, chassis 14-G-4, detailing performance improvements and arranging a comparison test.
View original record To Sg. from hs. c. to Wor. PN. 47380 S E C R E T. Hs1/LG28.3.29. 20 HP. CAR. 45770 As regards the 20 HP. car with increased performance which we promised to have ready for Sales to try at the end of…

Scan127 Modifications to an S.S. exhaust, its application to the 20 HP model, and arranging a performance test.
View original record contd :- -2- For instance, the modifications which have been carried out on the S.S. exhaust, we should like to apply to the 20 HP. As regards the performance and smoothness, this can be judged…

Scan128 Alterations to the 'S.S' short chassis frame side members.
View original record DA. c. HS. X7380 BY6/G.4.4.29. 'S.S' SHORT CHASSIS FRAME SIDE MEMBERS. ------------------------------------ With reference to DA4/M27.3.29. we have already ordered the short type side members with 6"…

Scan129 Proposed modifications to the 'SS' exhaust system and L.H. control.
View original record BY. from DA. c. to SG. Hs. 47380 DA3/M13.4.29. 'SS' EXHAUST SYSTEM. X. 7230 ---------------------- X. 7380 Our enquiry by wire with reference to the gusset plate was because we had seen that it fouled…

Scan130 Requesting the creation of urgent linen tracings from drawings for a publication on body subframes.
View original record BY. from DA/EV. c. to Sg. R. C. c. to Wor. Hs. X7380 DA/EV1/M22. 4. 29. RE. BODY SUBFRAME. X. 7380 X. 7830 We send herewith drgs. and prints of figs. 1 - 10 shewing illustrations which we wish to…

Scan131 Chassis weight distribution for an 'SS' model car under different conditions.
View original record X7380 To BY/CCH. from Hs/Rm. Hs/RmL/LG23.4.29. 'SS' CHASSIS WEIGHT. X7840 With reference to BY/CGill/G16.4.29. In answer to question 1. We have not had an opportunity of weighing an SS. chassis with…

Scan132 The dispatch of blueprints and drawings for body/subframes to coachbuilders.
View original record DA. Sg. Wor. Hs. ---------- X7380 BY/Cgh16/N.29.4.29 Re: Body/Subframes. ---------- We are sending you herewith tracings of the blueprints and drawings sent under cover of your DA/EV1/M22.4.29 which…

Scan133 Difficulties and solutions for mounting subframes on S.S. bodies.
View original record To DA/EV. from Hs/AJL. x7840 c. to Wor. BY. Hs/AJL1/LG1.5.29. BODIES FOR S.S. x7830 In reply to EV4/29.4.29. We agree that the difficulties in connection with mounting subframes on our S.S. are not…

Scan134 Overcoming difficulties experienced when mounting the first bodies.
View original record contd :- -2- with extra cross members it should be overcome. (5) is not difficult after the initial secrecy is over. The whole job will be easily possible provided we take every precaution to…

Scan135 Secret memo regarding the issuance of prints for SS cars to coachbuilders, detailing chassis and steering specifications.
View original record FROM DA/EV. SECRET. X7380 EV/1/13.5.29. C. to Hs. SS. PRINTS FOR COACHBUILDERS. Hs. It has previously been pointed out that we propose getting the first SS. cars completed on lines which will assure a…

Scan136 Chassis modifications related to steerings, scuttle, dash, and subframe members, with instructions for coachbuilders.
View original record - 2 - This again we suggest be made to serve for all the steerings. Again we do not think you need immediately trouble about the short chassis as this drawing will be corrected immediately the need…

Scan137 Tracings, a dimensional change for secrecy, and coordination for S.S. bodies being built in Paris.
View original record - 3 - We would be glad if Derby could put the tracings in hand after having checked over the dimensions. The width between the bonnet hinges at the radiator has been given as 24.075 instead of 23.575…

Scan138 Erection instructions and sub-frame particulars for 'WJ' Series Chassis trial cars.
View original record X 7380 Hs. D/BP1/OG29.5.29 Re: 'WJ' Series Chassis. We have received erection instructions for chassis 1, 2 & 3-WJ, all three R.R. Trials Cars. In respect of chassis 1-WJ there is a note on the…

Scan139 Modification of three subframes from left-hand to right-hand chassis specification.
View original record Hs. X7380 BY/Cgh6/G.30.5.29. S.S: SUBFRAMES. With reference to the three subframes which were built for L.H.S.S., as you will see from another memo we have taken the whole matter up with Sales…

Scan140 Conversion, handling, and numbering of S.S. Subframes for various experimental chassis.
View original record SECRET. W/S (Gx). (crossed out) C. (crossed out) C. Wer/Hy. (crossed out) c. Hs. (crossed out) c. Ev. (crossed out) c. Dft. (crossed out) G. D/Br. (crossed out) X7380 BY/Cgh3/G.30.5.29. S.S.…

Scan141 Preparation of name plates and interim stamping of S.S. Subframes.
View original record W/S (Cr) - from SFT. c. BY. c. Gc. c. Hy. c. Hs. c. DA/BY. c. D/BP. X7380 RECEIVED 31 MAY 1929 SFT.3/B.31.5.29. S.S. SUBFRAMES. ---------- With reference to memo BY/Cgh3/G30.5.29., BY. is now…

Scan142 The allocation and modification of S.S. sub-frames for experimental chassis models 24-EX, 25-EX, and 26-EX.
View original record S/H. Copy to Sn. Copy to Hs. Copy to DA/EV. X7380 Cx/Hn6/EDI/3-6-29. S.S. SUB-FRAMES. BY/Cgh3/G30.5.29. As it is not a simple matter to convert the sub-frame prepared for 25-EX to the drop centre…

Scan143 Design and function of 'SS' engine feet for vibration isolation using compressed rubber.
View original record To BY. from Hs/Rm. c. to Sft. Mx. X7380 Hs/Rm2/LG14.6.29. 'SS' ENGINE FEET. X7005 The object of the SS. feet is to give the max. torsional rigidity to the frame while isolating high frequency engine…

Scan144 Blueprint for a rubber engine feet distance piece.
View original record P, DISTANCE PIECE, D, RUBBER ENGINE FEET DISTANCE PIECE

Scan145 The back of a document with a purple ink date stamp.
View original record RECEIVED 14 JUN 1929 DERBY.

Scan146 Engine suspension issues with rubber mounts and a note on reverting to fabric engine couplings.
View original record X7380 To OY. from Hs/Bm. Hs/Rm2/LG21.6.29. X7005 X.7305 X7380 ENGINE SUSPENSION. With reference to your note of the 2nd. June with reference to engine suspension. The 5th. point at the rear of the…

Scan147 The failures of fabric couplings and testing of alternative riveting methods to improve durability.
View original record contd :- -2- We find that if we spigot the studs on the spider which carryes the coupling we increase the life of the fabric by several hundred per cent. Originally these studs were not spigoted…

Scan148 List of answers to questions about the weight, performance, and fitting of body subframes.
View original record contd :- -3- it is very inaccessible. BODY SUBFRAMES. With reference to your note of 10th. June. Answering your questions in order :- (1) The subframe as a unit weighs 107¼ lbs. (2) We do not think…

Scan149 Page 4 of a report on vehicle construction, covering jigs, subframe mounting, sealing, and door adjustments.
View original record contd :- -4- jigs consisting of a dashboard, steering column and frame side members so that they can work more accurately. (8) The seats are mounted on the subframe through the coachwork construction.…

Scan150 Agreed modifications to subframes for mounting SS and India bodies onto chassis.
View original record BY. from DA/EV. C. to Hs. DA/EV6/M5. 2. 29. RE. SUBFRAMES. As a result of our experience with the mounting of SS. and India bodies we agree to the following modifications to the subframes of both…

Scan151 Difficulties of fitting coachbuilt S.S. bodies and proposing a chassis-like rig to ensure a proper fit.
View original record DA/EV. from AJL. c.c. to BY. Wor. Hs/AJLL/LG22.4.29. BODIES FOR S.S. DA/EV9/M17.4.29. Having mounted all the SS. bodies on their respective chassis here in Derby we are in a position to appreciate the…

Scan152 Scheme to supply subframe brackets and templates to coachbuilders for correct fitting.
View original record Contd :- -2- for Derby to posses an exactly similar rig as far as subframe brackets are concerned - other parts not necessary. All subframes would be despatched to the coachbuilders until Works are…

Scan153 Subframe and chassis interchangeability for S.S. models and the relationship with coachbuilders.
View original record Hs/AJL. from DA/EV. c. to Wor. BY. RE. BODIES FOR S.S. We thank you for your Hs/AJL1/LG22.4.29. It is essential that any subframe shall fit any chassis. To make this possible we have provided ample…

Scan154 Challenges of providing information to coachbuilders for new car bodies due to secrecy and experimental drawings.
View original record Contd :- -2- At the outset, for the first batch of bodies, the information given must of necessity be scanty, owing to secrecy, but we hope to be able to give on the two proposed prints sufficient to…

Scan155 Difficulties with mounting subframes for S.S. bodies and proposed solutions.
View original record To DA/EV. from Hs/AJL. c. to Wor. BY. Hs/AJLL/LG1.5.29. BODIES FOR S.S. In reply to EV4/29.4.29. We agree that the difficulties in connection with mounting subframes on our SS. are not unmountable. We…

Scan156 Blueprint of a mechanical component with handwritten annotations suggesting modifications.
View original record Stamped Text: PRINT ROOM 21 JUN 1929 DERBY. Handwritten Text: SHOULD BE SPIGOTTED. THESE SCREWS ARE NO GOOD. cy from RM 21/7/29.

Scan157 Secret memo discussing subframe and chassis interchangeability for 'S.S.' bodies.
View original record re HS/AJL/LG22.4.29. SECRET. to HS/AJL. from EV copy to RE BODIES FOR "S.S." We thank you for your HS/AJL/LG.22.4.29. It is essential that any subframe shall fit any chassis. To make this possible we…

Scan158 Process of providing information to coachbuilders for mounting vehicle bodies.
View original record EV4/29.4.29. cont. We shall give the coachbuilder ample information to enable him to avoid fouls. If he does not make his body correctly to our prints, it is he that will suffer, for he will have to…

Scan159 Letter from the American branch asking a series of questions about the design and effects of a body subframe.
View original record ROLLS-ROYCE OF AMERICA, INC. SPRINGFIELD, MASS. X7380 OY-15 June 10th, 1929. Mr. E.W. Hives, Rolls Royce Ltd., Derby, England. c - Mr. Robotham. Dear Mr. Hives: Re Body Subframe - Section 7000 We…

Scan160 The second page of a letter from Maurice Olley posing questions about subframe design and implementation.
View original record - 2 - (9) On one example we have seen with subframe the floor has been sunk down in such a way that cleaning, egress from the car, etc., have been interfered with, and the problem of fitting a good…

Scan161 On improvements to 'SS' cars, remaining issues with noise and fumes, and proposed comparative tests against a Phantom.
View original record To R. From Hs. c. to SG. MOT. [Text is struck through] c. to DA. [Text is struck through] c. to FY. [Text is struck through] Handwritten: X7380 Hs1/LG1.7.29. 'SS' CARS. Handwritten: X7380 X7770 X1698…

Scan162 Wheel arch clearance issues and testing for the 'WJ' series.
View original record Cx. (FROM DA/EV. By. ) C. WHR. Cy/ING. C. HO. JG. He/Rn. X 7380 DA/EV1/MA.9.29. X.7380 X.7830. WHEEL ARCH CLEARANCES "WJ" SERIES --------------- At several of the coachbuilders in London the rolling…

Scan163 Instructions for modifying wheel arches on bodies under construction and future testing proposals.
View original record Da/Evl/M4. 9.29 contd. -2- We could only once get a contact. One would describe these conditions as those to be encountered on mountain tracks, or driving through open country without roads. IMMEDIATE…

Scan164 Troubles and investigations into rear wheel arch clearance, comparing the W.J. series and Phantom chassis.
View original record By. } FROM De/EV. HS. } C. CX. HO. C. JG. GY/MNG. SECRET. X7380 Da/Bv1/M5.9.29. X. 7380 X. 7380. REAR WHEEL ARCH CLEARANCE. We have reported to you in another memo some troubles we have experienced…

Scan165 Vehicle roll testing, spring deflection, and wheel arch clearance for the Phantom and other models.
View original record -2- Because of the 10,000 mile test results, in which no complaints have been made, and also because we know that there is less tendency for the body to roll at W.J. series than the Phantom, we…

Scan166 Insufficient rear axle clearance on the Phantom II chassis due to sub-frame fixing issues.
View original record Br. c. Hs. c. Sft. -C. De/Ev. x7380.22 EP10/H26.9.29. re. SUB-FRAME FIXING. PHANTOM II. CHASSIS. In inspecting and testing the first complete car of the Phantom II. type, insufficient clearance of the…

Scan167 Fouling issues with the rear wheel arch clearances on the Phantom II model.
View original record X7380 Hs. } FROM Da/EV. By. } C. HO. JG. MNG. C. Da/EV2/M2.10.29. PHANTOM II REAR WHEEL ARCH CLEARANCES. X.7380 X.7830. In our Da/EVI/M4.9.29, we suggested that the top flange of the subframe should…

Scan168 Wheel arch clearance issues and fouling on experimental Phantom II cars.
View original record x7380. To Da/EV. from Hs/AJL. c. EV. Ex. c. WHR. HU. c. GY/MNG. JG. HS/AJL1/AML.10.29. WHEEL ARCH CLEARANCES - W.J. SERIES. We have gone into the question of wheel arch clearances on our experimental…

Scan169 Increasing clearance by modifying the off-side rear wheel arch on chassis 20-EX.
View original record -2- car is unloaded than when carrying its full complement of passengers. Possibly due to the rear springs offering greater resistance to twisting when under heavy load, thus restricting the roll…

Scan170 Wheel arch clearance tests and solutions for brake and tyre fouling issues.
View original record -3- is obtained by cutting away the rear cushion ends locally. The car was then taken out on to a very rough field and driven over bumps and indentations up to 18" deep i.e. conditions which very few…

Scan171 Recommendations for modifying subframes, brake shoe fulcrum pins and nuts, and a report on a rear spring clip fouling issue.
View original record -4- It is recommended that all subframes should be modified to these dimensions, and that the brake shoe fulcrum pins and nuts be modified. There was another foul reported in the early days which does…

Scan172 Diagram illustrating a Phantom II subframe modification to increase wheel arch clearance.
View original record 24.00" (Unaltered) 21.5" (20.75" (Approx)) 1/4" 1/2" Clearance shown etched should only extend 5.00" on either side of rear axle centre line when it may be merged into the brake drum clearance. (All…

Scan173 Diagram showing a modification to a Phantom II subframe to increase wheel arch clearance.
View original record .50" .250" 5" 5" Reduce 1/4" along this line. Reduce 5/16" along this line. 1/4 PHANTOM II SUBFRAME MODIFICATION TO INCREASE WHEEL ARCH CLEARANCE FIG. II.

Scan174 Wheel arch clearances, specifically in relation to rear seat accommodation and tyre rubbing.
View original record SG.) FROM R. C. } BY. } X7380 R. 6/M26.10.29. c. to HS. c. to DA/EV. WHEEL ARCH CLEARANCES. X. 5380 X. 7380 With reference to the rear seats, no doubt the coachbuilders have already seen the…

Scan175 Concerns with Coachbuilder modifications to Phantom II subframes for brake drum clearance.
View original record BY. c. HS c. DA/EV c. J.E.S.Little Hall. +7380. EP/Thn6/H5.12.29. SH re. PHANTOM II. SUBFRAMES. We are being continually worried by Coachbuilders, and shall be faced with a certain amount of…

Scan176 Revised subframe design for the Phantom II, incorporating a new steering system and other modifications.
View original record BY. FROM DA. Copy to SG. Copy to HS. X7380 DA2/M7.12.29. PHANTOM 2. SUBFRAME. We send herewith N. scheme 2993. shewing a layout of an enclosed limousine on the revised type of subframe. The object of…

Scan177 Phantom II subframes, attaching a copy of a report received from a tester.
View original record BM. c. Hs. c. DA/Ev. c. JLS.Lillie-Hall. x7380. EP/Thn2/H10.12.29. re. PHANTOM II. SUBFRAMES. With further reference to our memo EP/Thn6/H5.12.29. we now attach hereto copy of report we have received…

Scan178 Required modifications to the sub-frame for clearance to rear brake drums on chassis 49-WJ.
View original record COPY. Clearances of Sub-frame to rear brake drums:- Measurements taken of chassis 49-WJ at Messrs. Mulliners, Northampton, show that to give the necessary clearances the flanges of sub-frame at rear…

Scan179 Various issues and recommendations regarding the Phantom II subframe.
View original record BY. FROM DA/EV. X7380 DA/EV3/M10.12.29. C. to HS. EP. C. to CX. JLE. PHANTOM 2. SUBFRAMES. (1) EP/ING/H51229. We do not think that we should be very nervous over the latest clearance specified for the…

Scan180 Modifications to the frame and a universal subframe for various coachbuilders.
View original record (2) hole sideways in the main frame. We suggest that the hole in the main frame be a slot instead of a round hole, the width of the slot being the same as the present dia., and the length about .250"…

Scan181 Decision to not alter Phantom II subframes until further notice from the Experimental Department.
View original record +7380 EP. c. Hs. re PHANTOM 11 SUBFRAMES. With reference to FP/Thn2/H.10.12.29. since the subframes are at present cut away to dimensions determined by the Experimental Department, we do not propose…

Scan182 Brake drum clearances for the Phantom II subframe and referencing a report by Mr. Goose.
View original record HS. FROM DA/EV. x9380 DA/EV1/M13.12.29. Copy to - EP. Copy to - BY. Copy to - JLE. PHANTOM 2. SUBFRAME. BRAKE DRUM CLEARANCE. With reference to EP/THN2/H101229., and the report of Mr. Goose, we are…

Scan183 Issues and modifications related to the Phantom II subframes.
View original record DA/EV. C.BY. Hs. JLM. Cx. X7380. EP7/H13.12.29. re. PHANTOM II. SUBFRAMES. Many thanks for your DA/EV3/M10.12.29. We take it that instructions in regard to these modifications will be issued as…

Scan184 Subframe clearance issues and required alterations for the Phantom II model.
View original record X7380 ORIGINAL 87380. BY C. Hs. DA/EV. Wor. JLE. EP3/H14.12.29. re. PHANTOM II. SUBFRAMES. With further reference to our memo EP/Thn6/H5.1229 and EP/Thn2/H10.12.29. and your reply BY/Cgh3/G12.12.29.…

Scan185 Procedure detailing the method for testing subframe clearances.
View original record ORIGINAL METHOD OF TESTING SUBFRAME CLEARANCES. (1) Load the car normal number of passengers as for spring loading instructions. (2) Bounce car up and down until buffers touch axle, front wheels…

Scan186 Discrepancy in wheel arch clearances between experimental and production Phantom II subframes and proposing modifications.
View original record To EV. From HS/AJL. c. to DE/EV. for. c. to EP. JLE. X T830 X7380. Hs/AJL.1/MN.17.12.29. PHANTOM II SUBFRAMES WHEEL ARCH CLEARANCES. In reply to EP3/H14.12.29, EP/TH2/M10.12.29, Da/EV3/M10.12.29 and…

Scan187 Subframe modifications to prevent fouling with the wheel arch and procedures for centralisation.
View original record -2- all concerned (i.e. Works, body builders) immediately, so that all existing subframes can be modified. Will Da/Ev examine the subframe when cut away to this extent and consider whether it is…

Scan188 Recommendation to use hard or insertion rubber as packing in place of the current aluminium discs for body adjustment.
View original record -3- Hs/AJL.1/W.17.12.29.Contd. Referring to (4) in Da/EV3/10.12.29., in addition to the two alterations recommended, we would like to add a third viz: the use of hard rubber or insertion rubber as a…

Scan189 Tests for stiffening the Phantom II frame to solve an issue described as 'radiator jellying'.
View original record x7380 To Da. From Hs/An. Hs/An.2/MJ.18.12.29. x7380 RADIATOR JELLYING. During the last visit to W.W. we understand that the question of stiffening up the front of the Phantom ll frame was discussed…

Scan190 The testing and modification of rear wheel arch clearances on the Phantom II chassis.
View original record S/W (BT.) Copy to - Sg. " " Hs. " " JLR. " " EV. " " HO. X7380 EV6/EBN20.12.29 PHANTOM II CHASSIS Rear Wheel Arch Clearances. In view of the warning which Derby have given us to the effect that the…

Scan191 The urgent distribution of prints for a wheel arch clearance modification to avoid a 'further catastrophe'.
View original record 2. EV6/EBR20.12.29 We hope that you will receive these and have time to let HO have the prints in London so as he can distribute them first thing on Monday morning the 30th Dec. We apologise for…

Scan192 Modifications to the Phantom IIa rear wheelarch and subframe for larger tyres and improved clearances.
View original record TO BY. FROM EV. HS. x7380 EVI/21.12.29. COPY TO SG.HS.EP. HO.JIB. REAR WHEELARCH CLEARANCES. PHANTOM IIa With further reference to our EV6/EBN20.12.29. re the above we have now translated our road…

Scan193 Suggesting a note regarding the use of chains, a modification to the rear subframe support, and referencing issues with the Phantom II chassis.
View original record EVI/21.12.29.cont. We suggest that a note re Chains should be added to the Subframe and the Wing Print, somewhat as follows:- Where chains will be used only on rare occassions and for short periods we…

Scan194 Instructions and quality issues regarding Phantom II subframes.
View original record BY/Bgh. c. Hs. c. FA/EV. c. Map. c. Srb. x7380 EP18/H31.12.29. re. PHANTOM II. SUBFRAMES. With reference to your BY/Cgh17/C23.12.29. we now take it that the instructions are final and are arranging…

Scan195 Modifications to the Phantom II rear wheel arch clearance and subframes.
View original record x7380. EV. c. Sg. c. Hs. c. EP. c. HO. c. JLE. BY/Cgh17/G.23.12.29. RE REAR WHEEL ARCH CLEARANCE - PHANTOM II. With reference to EV1/21.12.29. immediately it was realized that the cause of the trouble…

Scan196 Proposed alterations for the rear wheel arch clearance on the Phantom II model.
View original record x7380 To Dm/EV. FROM Hs/AJL. Hs/AJL.1/AJ.31.12.29. REAR WHEEL ARCH CLEARANCE. PHANTOM II. With reference to EV.1/21.12.29., we have examined the proposed alterations as shewn on N.Sch.3003 and are…

Scan197 The impossibility of removing the gearbox lid on Phantom II cars with close-coupled bodies.
View original record S/W. Hs. from Sg. X7380 Sg11/D31.12.29. Re: Phantom II Subframes. You will remember the point raised by PN. when he returned WJ-1, in regard to the impossibility of removing the lid of the gearbox. I…

Scan198 Non-standard subframe on Phantom II chassis WJ-1.
View original record x7380. To Sg. From Hs. Hs.1/WJ.1.1.30. PHANTOM 11 SUBFRAMES. The subframe on WJ-1 is of an odd type. It was a subframe which was made originally for a left-hand chassis. It was afterwards agreed to…

Scan199 Disadvantages of fitting larger section 'India' tyres over the standard Dunlop tyres.
View original record W/S. To C. From Hs/Rn. c. to CX. Da. c. to SY. Wor. X 7380 Hs/Rn.3/MJ.1.1.30. LARGE SECTION TYRES INDIA & OTHERS. We understand from Mr. Bailey that Sales are pressing for all cars to have the wheel…

Scan200 Tyre specifications, discouraging larger sections and standardising on Fort tyres for 20' rims.
View original record -2- (7) They make the rear seat width 1" less at the top of the wheel arch and 2" at the bottom. In view of these objections, we think that customers should be discouraged from fitting tyres of larger…

Scan201 Rear wheel arch clearances on the Phantom II, addressing tyre rubbing issues and the need for modifications.
View original record S/W. BY. from Sg. c. to Her. c. to Hs. c. to Cx. c. to Ey. +7380 Hs. Sg15/D2.1.30. Re: Rear Wheel Arch Clearances - Phantom II. Referring to Evl/21.12.29, BY/Cgh17/G.23.12.29, and Hs/RM3/MJ.1.1.30,…

Scan202 Phantom II rear wheel arch clearances, addressing brake drum and various tyre fitment issues.
View original record x7380 S/s (BY.) Copy to Sg. " " Hs. " " AZ. " " JLE. (Struck through) " " HO. Ev5/EEN2.1.30 PHANTOM II REAR WHEEL ARCH CLEARANCES We have discussed the problem with Sg. who is writing to you. The…

Scan203 Request for the dimensions of new proposed 20' tyres and rims to progress with coachwork which has been held up.
View original record - 2 - difference in diameter or width of section between the Silent tread tyre as now fitted to 21" rims and those proposed of 20" rims. We would be glad if you would send us immediately dimensions of…

Scan204 Blueprints for modifications to the rear wheel arch clearances on the Phantom II.
View original record Bg. c. Wor. c. Hs. c. Cx. c. Ev. X7380 BY/Cgh4/G.3.1.30. RE: REAR WHEEL ARCH CLEARANCES - PHANTOM 11. With reference to Sg15/D.2.1.30. we have now sent to HO. a quantity of blueprints for distribution…

Scan205 Letter concerning a subframe fouling a brake drum on chassis 22-WJ and a query about correct coachbuilding procedures.
View original record Sèvres P/W "Hs" X7380. Ps2/RJ.18/1/30. Re: Chassis 22-WJ - C.B. Fairfax Esq. I recently had a very bad case of a subframe fouling the brake drum. I had but an hour to do the job with the owner…

Scan206 Customer complaint regarding weak suspension, traced to a faulty sub-frame fitting by the body builder.
View original record Sèvres P/S. Ps6/RJ.2/1/30. Re: Chassis 82-WJ - O.B. Fairfax Esq. This customer, who was en route for Nice, called at Sèvres with his car to complain of weak suspension, the car having crashed…

Scan207 Subframe and body clearance issues for Chassis 22-WJ, a Phantom II.
View original record COPY. Cx. Cx/JGG/EBN.6/1/30. Chassis 22-WJ (C.B. Fairfax Esq.) Ref: Attached PsS/RJ.2/1/30. This refers to an early subframe Phantom II, i.e. Windovers' Show car on Windover Stand, and the position of…

Scan208 Responding to three queries regarding subframe and body fitting on chassis 22-WJ.
View original record Ps. From Hs/AJL. X7380 Hs/AJL.2/MJ.22.1.30. Re. CHASSIS 22-WJ.- C.B. Fairfax Esq. Replying to Ps2/RJ.18.1.30. In reply to the three queries you raise relating to subframes:- (1) The body should…

Scan209 Brief thank you note regarding information on subframes.
View original record Sèvres P/W "Hs" x7380. Ps5/RJ.28/1/30. Re: Subframes Hs/AJL2/MJ.22/1/30. Many thanks for the information you have given me on this question. Ps. PS

Scan210 Investigations into radiator shimmy, detailing experiments with frame stiffening, axle changes, and wheel sizes.
View original record R. FROM DA. (held up.) X7380 DAL/M29.1.30. C. to SG. WOR. C. to HS. BY. E. RADIATOR SHIMMY. X.457 X.7250 X.7380 The lines on which we are working on this problem are, stiffening the front end of the…

Scan211 Modifications required for fitting a spare wheel carrier for 7' section tyres.
View original record BY. From Da. C. to HS. X7380 Da.1/MJ.3.2.30. X.7600 X.7460 X.7380 SPARE WHEEL CARRIER FOR 7" SECTION TYRES. We have looked into this question and it appears that it will be necessary to move the top…

Scan212 Solutions for radiator shimmy on the Phantom II, including suspension modifications and suggestions from Mr. Royce.
View original record To Hs/Rn. From EV. COPY TO BY. DA. SG. x7380. EV.3/10.2.30. X.7457 X.7250 X.7005 X.7850 7380. RADIATOR SHIMMY. With reference to your Hs/Rn. 2/MJ.6.2.30. suggesting that we should change to harder…

Scan213 Design proposal and sketch for a modified body mounting scheme to address chassis torsion and radiator shimmy.
View original record -2- pillars and the dash flanges to act as dampers. We prefer this scheme to the one suggested by DA. for the following reasons - (1) It is easier to fit into an existing chassis. (2) The support is…

Scan214 Schemes to cure 'radiator jellying', requesting sketches for a single point body mounting.
View original record BY. From Hs/Rn. X7380 Hs/Rn.3/MJ.15.2.30. RADIATOR JELLYING. K.457 X.7380 X.7250 Of the various schemes which have been got out by Da. and Ev. curing this trouble, the one we are most anxious to try…

Scan215 Solutions for 'frame jellying' by testing different shock absorber mountings.
View original record RHC. From Hs/Rm. X7380 Hs/Rm.4/MJ.15.2.30. FRAME JELLYING. X.457 X.7380 X.7250 In reviewing our tests of this problem we find that the most promising experiment in hand appears to be that of mounting…

Scan216 Methods of observation for the phenomenon known as 'frame jellying'.
View original record To R. From Hs/Rm. (Held up). c. to Sg. Wor. c. to Rg. E. c. to BY. Da. c. to OY. EP. c. to Hm. MX. c. to PN. x7380 Hs/Rm.1/MJ.19.2.30. x457 x7380 x7250 FRAME JELLYING. METHODS OF OBSERVATION. To study…

Scan217 Analysis of vehicle frame vibration, specifically 'frame jellying' and its relationship to high-speed wobble.
View original record -2- and frequency of the mascot movement. NATURE OF FRAME JELLYING. By means of the apparatus above described, we obtained the following information :- (1) Frame jellying is an embryo high speed…

Scan218 Analysis of vehicle frame twisting, engine movement, and wobbles, exploring solutions for 'jellying'.
View original record -3- from side to side, or .187" in either direction from the central position. The greatest amplitude of movement that we have produced by our artificially excited test is .650". Therefore the angle…

Scan219 Experiments to counteract 'jellying' by altering frame periodicity and shock damper loading.
View original record -4- to the axle. Thus a bare chassis is practically immune from "jellying". When a body is fitted the periodicity of the frame is altered, in almost every case to the detriment of the steering and…

Scan220 Experiments on vehicle body attachments and frame damping.
View original record -5- (c) As a further parallel experiment we tried with and without spare wheels in the side position. Carrying the spare wheels at the side made a definite improvement. Altering the Body Attachment.…

Scan221 Experiments to improve steering and reduce 'jellying' by altering the front axle assembly, which yielded no improvements.
View original record -6- to that of a close coupled saloon like 1-WJ. It will be appreciated that this question is somewhat complicated and involved and we are still working on it. Altering the Front Axle Assembly. We…

Scan222 Summary of the position on chassis vibration ('jellying') issues and potential solutions.
View original record -7- SUMMARISING THE POSITION. We think we have explained the difference between different cars. While bodies vary, the most noticeable difference on cars in service will be as to whether the wheels…

Scan223 Page discussing the fitting of spare wheels and extra damping.
View original record -8- . fitting the spare wheels at the side and using extra damping between the scuttle and the dash. HS/Rm.

Scan224 Blueprint showing a test rig and recording apparatus for measuring radiator movement.
View original record Hs 267 TEST RIG RECORDING APPARATUS 1/10 SECS RAD MOVEMENT

Scan225 Heavily faded typed document with a purple 'Print Room' stamp in the bottom right corner.
View original record [Illegible typed text] ROLLS-ROYCE, LIMITED PRINT ROOM 20. FEB 1930 DERBY.

Scan226 Five drawings for the application of increased stiffness to the front end of the Phantom II frame.
View original record To BY. From Da. c. to HS. RIC. 87380 Da.1/WJ.24.2.30. 87380 STIFFENED FRONT END OF FRAME. PHANTOM II. Herewith are five drawings in connection with the permanent application of increased stiffness to…

Scan227 Frame modifications, including fitting a larger diameter tube near the radiator and a new shock absorber scheme.
View original record RHC. From Hs/Rn. x 7380. Hs/Rn.2/WJ.3.3.30. FRAME MODIFICATIONS. N. Sch 3040, 3037. We want to fit the larger diameter tube in front of the radiator and the tube behind the radiator to 22, 23, and…

Scan228 Tenth report of the design committee discussing frame jellying, rear axle failure, and battery recharging capacity.
View original record R. (Held up). Sg. Wor. BY. E. Hs. X7380. Rg.1/L.W.5.3.30. X.457 X.7380 X.7250 X.7535 TENTH REPORT OF DESIGN COMMITTEE. Frame Jellying. This problem was discussed again at some length, both as regards…

Scan229 Experimental subframe mounting techniques and tests on body 'booming' and engine roughness.
View original record To DA/EV. From Hs/Rm. c.c. to Ds. E. 87380 Hs/Rm.1/WJ.12.3.30. SUBFRAME MOUNTING. We have been reading the Rolls-Royce book on "The Body and Subframe". All our experimental car subframes have been…

Scan230 Remarks on body mounting, comparing rubber isolation to metal-to-metal contact.
View original record -2- HS/Rm.1/LL.12.3.30.Contd. We think that your remarks on body mounting on N.Sch. 2623 are misleading if you really meant us to do what you specify in italics on page 19 of the subframe book. We…

Scan231 Tests conducted to resolve 'frame and radiator jellying' issues.
View original record To R. From Hs/An. (Held up). c. to SS. Wor. c. to RS. E. c. to Sy. Da. c. to Cy. EP. c. to Hn. Mk. c. to PN. x7380 Hs/An.6/MJ.12.3.30. x-457 x7250 x7380 FRAME AND RADIATOR JELLYING. We have now…

Scan232 Explanation of measurements shown on an attached print, relating to various curves that demonstrate engine mounting, frame stiffness, and radiator movement.
View original record EXPLAINING THE MEASUREMENTS SHEWN ON THE ATTACHED PRINT. CURVES A & E Demonstrate that the rubber mounting allows the engine to float so that its amplitude of movement is not so great as that of the…

Scan233 Historical problems with subframe mounting and the justification for adding a central support.
View original record X7380 TO HS/RM. FROM EV. EVI/15.3.30. COPY TO E. RE SUBFRAME MOUNTING. P.2. We thank you for your HS/HMI/MJ.12.3.30. re the instructions for mounting a subframe body as given in our book. We do not…

Scan234 Methods for mounting the car body to the chassis to reduce rolling and engine vibrations.
View original record EVI/15.3.30 cont. in order to tie the body to the chassis to resistt rolling. It was thought that no engine or tyre vibrations would reach the body by this joint, the former being so far away thatthe…

Scan235 Testing requirements for body sub-frames and engine mountings prior to standardisation.
View original record EVI/15.3.30. Before we would be prepared to agree to its standardisation we should wish to build and test for 12,000 miles at least two bodies of the open car or cabriolet type as it would be a…

Scan236 Wheel arch clearances and rear track dimensions for the P.2. vehicle.
View original record X7380 SECRET. To By. from Ev. C. to Da. Hs. Sg. OV. SPN. Ev/7.4.30. X.7380 X.7830 X.7810. RE WHEELARCH CLEARANCES 6.750 REAR TRACK, P.2. We send herewith N. schr 3086, shewing the rear wheel arch…

Scan237 Proposed improvements for an experimental car to address frame jellying, steering, and engine smoothness.
View original record To [illegible] From Hs/Rm. C.C. to Da. Contents X 7380 Hs/Rm.4/MJ.14.4.30. X 7380 X 457 FRAME JELLYING. We are about to build up an Experimental car as a model for the next 10,000 miles improvements…

Scan238 Requesting drawings for a subframe for the 26-EX car, needed by May 2nd.
View original record BY. From Hs/Rn. c. to RIC. X7380. Hs/Rn.7/MJ.24.4.30. x7120. 26 -EX. CAR. You will note that the coachbuilders will be ready for this subframe on May 2nd. We should be obliged therefore, if you will…

Scan239 Specifying the chassis number 26-KX for a Continental Phantom II and its production schedule.
View original record To Wor. From Hs/Rn. c. to MC. c. to Mft. c. to D/SP. c. to C/RD. 7380, Hs/Rn. S/MJ. 24.4.30. X 7380 X 7770 With reference to Wor.2/117.4.30. RE. CONTINENTAL PHANTOM II CAR. The chassis number of this…

Scan240 Modifications to the scuttle, dashboard, and subframe for a Phantom II experimental car.
View original record To Ev. from EV. v. Sg. Hs. X7380 EE2/28.4.30. X.4613 X.7380 X.7260 SCUTTLE ISOLATION 38.500 DASH. PHANTOM II We send herewith N.Sch.3093, shewing the scuttle armature and the front end of the subframe…

Scan241 Providing instructions on the subframe for a Continental car, specifying it should be the standard Universal Type.
View original record X7380 To By. from EV. c. Hs. EV6/28.4.30. X.7120 X.7380. RE SUBFRAME FOR CONTINENTAL CAR. The subframe for this car is to be of the Universal Type as already instructed. Since this car is having a…

Scan242 Solutions for radiator jellying, inertia dampers, and universal body mounting.
View original record X7380 Hs/Bn. Da. ) FROM R. E. By. ) (At Le Canadel) C. to Sg. Wor. PN. C. to C. IHS. EP. R1/M5.5.30. X. 7380 X. 457 X. 5380 X. 7250 X. 7830 X. 5250 X. 5830 X. 7005 X. 5005. CAR WORK - RADIATOR…

Scan243 Continued memorandum outlining three methods for insulating a vehicle's power unit, body, and passengers from vibrations.
View original record R1/M5.5.30 contd. -2- road vibrations that reach the body from the frame. We have then :- (1) The power unit and gearbox insulated from the frame (rubber). (2) The body insulated from the frame…

Scan244 Issues and required improvements for body mounting and chassis isolation.
View original record COPY. X7380. (Rec'd at Works 20.5.30) Da. K. HE. c. R. (Held up). c. SG. c. Wor. c. C. c. LHS. c. By. c. JLL. EP7/H21.5.30. X.7005. X.6005. X.7830. X.5830. X.7380. X.5380. X.7230. X.5230. re. BODY…

Scan245 Investigation into chassis and body-related noise and vibration issues, including 'boom' and 'rumble'.
View original record -2- EP7/H21.5.30.Contd. extending the outlet snout. The "dead" fabric type body is dying out in favour of the coachbuilt type. We find the characteristics of the chassis for torque reaction effect and…

Scan246 Body mounting, scuttle isolation, and recommendations for front and rear aprons.
View original record X7380 EP. from De/EV. c. HS. E. LHS. c. C. EV. De/EVL/M24.5.30. X.7380 X.5380 X.7005 X.5005 X.4613 BODY MOUNTING ETC - EP7/H21.5.30. LHS. has given me a copy of the above memo. We were surprised to…

Scan247 Modifications to body mounting, exhaust, and subframe support to improve smoothness and reduce fumes.
View original record Da/M1/M24.5.30 contd. -2- portion of the car it must not be rigidly attached to the chassis frame but mounted on felt or rubber, and that it must have louvres in it to allow the exhaust fumes to pass…

Scan248 New cantilever battery support (N. scheme 3114) for the Phantom II model.
View original record X7) 380. By. from Da. c. Sg. Hs. Da5/M29.5.30. PHANTOM II R. and L.H. BATTERY SUPPORT. X 7772 X.7380 Herewith we send N. scheme 3114. shewing the cantilever battery support for use with the new…

Scan249 Design of a cantilever support for a left-hand chassis battery with a universal subframe.
View original record x7380 By. from Da. c. R. c. HS. Da3/M6.6.30. x7772 x7380. L.H. CHASSIS BATTERY SUPPORT WITH UNIVERSAL SUBFRAME. Replying to By6/G3.6.30, in order to take full advantage of the universal type subframe…

Scan250 Body rattles attributed to the P.2 subframe and defending it against blame for the issues.
View original record X7380 Hs. from Da/Ev. Da/Ev2/M16.6.30. P.2. SUBFRAMES. X.7380 X.7830. C S.C. I am to be told that on Thursday next, at the the use of the body subframe has brought a wave of body rattles throughout…

Scan251 The mileage and body condition of five Phantom II cars fitted with sub-frame bodies.
View original record 87380. To R. From HMAJL. c. to ES. WFR. c. to EW. Da. c. to AY. c. to De/EV. (At Conduit St.) HS/AJLL/W.18.5.30. x7380. x7830. PHANTOM 11 SUBFRAMES. _______________________ The following Phantom 11…

Scan252 Condition of car bodies, focusing on window rattles and the benefits of using a subframe to increase body longevity.
View original record -2- Body in good condition except for the two side screens on the front seat which in the first place were a very poor job. 24-XX. Barker Saloon. Total mileage 4,755, of which 3,974 was run in France.…

Scan253 The time taken to mount subframe versus non-subframe bodies and the advantages of the subframe.
View original record -3- the coachbuilders to finish off a car after receipt of the chassis, we are not in a position to give positive times for this job for comparison with non-subframe bodies because we have not mounted…

Scan254 Decision to order universal subframes for the N.2 series.
View original record Hs. C. ROY/MS. X7380. BY2/G.25.6.30. SUBFRAMES - N.2 SERIES. We have held off ordering subframes for this particular series, but we shall have to know quickly whether we are to go for the universal…

Scan255 Modifications to the subframe on the 25-EX model, painting, and fitting of accessories.
View original record X7380 To Hs. from Ev. Ev2/25.6.30. X.7380 X.4605 X.7772 RE : SUBFRAME ON 25-EX. You may have noticed that the subframe of 25-EX is not quite up-to-date in one respect. It was made in accordance with…

Scan256 Tests of completed cars detailing issues with subframe support and body alignment.
View original record EXTRACT FROM :- BY.) FROM DA/EV. HS.? 17380 DA/EV1/M26.6.30. c. to EP. JLE. c. to C. E. REPORT ON TESTS OF COMPLETED CARS. X.7770. X.5770. (1) The subframe centre support is often so low that it is…

Scan257 Standardization of the N.2 series universal type subframe, pending a 10,000-mile test.
View original record PY. From Hs/AJL. x7380. HS/AJL.1/MJ.27.6.30. SUBFRAMES - N.2 SERIES. BY2/G.25.6.30. We are not yet in a position to standardise the universal type subframe. We have not yet fitted the first one on a…

Scan258 Process and advantages of using subframes and subframe jigs for body assembly.
View original record -DA/SV. c. Wor. c. C. c. JLE. c. Hs. X7380 EP5/H27.6.30. re. SUBFRAMES. I attach hereto copy of memo. received from JLE. For some time we have been trying to force the issue of taking full advantage…

Scan259 Body mounting alignment with coachbuilder Hoopers and proposing the use of a dummy subframe to ensure correct fitting.
View original record COPY. S/W EP. LE2/C25.6.30. re. SUBFRAMES. I was discussing the question of subframes with Mr. Carpenter of Hoopers today, and he pointed out that if they build the body on their jig and then, when…

Scan260 Typed letter arranging a meeting regarding sub-frames with Mr. Carpenter of Hoopers.
View original record HS L214/R/30.6.30. [STAMP: RECEIVED JUL 1 1930] X7380 Da/SV c. to Mr. c. to WDF. c. to C. c. to He. Re. - Sub-Frames. You will have received a copy of - EP5/HIA/25.6.30. I understand EP. will be…

Scan261 Extract from a report on completed car tests, regarding a request to the Works for more accurate subframe production.
View original record X 7380 EXTRACT FROM :- BY/Cgn5/G.5.7.30. X.5770. X.7770. REPORT ON TESTS OF COMPLETED CARS. -------------------------- With reference to Da/Evl/M.26.6.30., we give below our reply to the various…

Scan262 Extract detailing issues with the P.2. model's rear wheel arch, subframe centre bearing, and subframe manufacturing.
View original record X. 7380. EXTRACT FROM :- BY. HS. c. to C. Wor. c. to EP. JLE. DA/EV.1/M15.7.30. X.7770. X.5770. (1) P.2. REAR WHEEL ARCH. The width between the brake drum arches on P.2. is less than for P.1. though…

Scan263 Body interchangeability and a specific issue with the body runner bracket in the subframe.
View original record -2- prior to its delivery, so that we could be sure that any subframe will go on any chassis. The interchangeability of bodies is a great virtue to us especially now that we are finding a bigger sale…

Scan264 Failure of subframe rear support brackets on P.2. cars and requesting an investigation.
View original record X7380 Hs. from Da/Ev. c. Sg. c. WHR. Da/Ev2/M22.7.30. P.2. SUBFRAME REAR SUPPORT BRACKET. As you are aware the subframe rear support brackets on FN's and SA's cars have failed. We understand that you…

Scan265 Arguing against the use of wooden subframes and in favor of metal ones for RRAI, citing issues with wood in American climates.
View original record X7380. Ov. } FROM Da/Ev. SRN. } c. Sg. R. c. HS. WHR. Da/Ev4/M22.7.30. X7772 X7380 RE SUBFRAMES FOR RRAI. In view of recent experience we are still more sorry to find that RRAI. are contemplating the…

Scan266 Third failure of a P.2 Subframe Rear Support Bracket.
View original record S/W. To Hs. from Sg. c. to SY. c. to Whr. c. to Ev. Hs RECEIVED JUL 24 1930 H'S X7380 Sg4/D23.7.30. Re: P.2 Subframe Rear Support Bracket. ---------------------------------…

Scan267 Failure and redesign of the Phantom II subframe rear support bracket.
View original record x7380 To DA/EV. From Hs/AJL. c. to Sg. By. c. to Thr. PHANTOM II SUBFRAME, REAR SUPPORT BRACKET. With reference to Ds/Ev2/M22.7.30., the first breakage of this bracket that was heard of was on the…

Scan268 Diagram with notes illustrating a design modification to strengthen a bracket at its weak points.
View original record -2- HS/ALL.2/U.24.7.30.Contd. BREAKAGE SHEWN BY WAVY LINE The new bracket is very much stronger at these weak points. HS/AJL.

Scan269 Blueprint for a strengthened rear support for the Phantom II subframe.
View original record Drawing, Mr 70 Lenvin (58 1/2" track) & S No Lenvin (Wide Track 60") SCHEME 1325 ALL BOLTS AS AT PRESENT USED & IN STANDARD POSITIONS .1875 DIA: RIVETS. ALL SUPPORT DETAILS ARE STANDARD, EXCEPT FOR…

Scan270 Deletion of subframes from a contract and the method of mounting bodies without them.
View original record COPY. X7380. X. 7772. X. 7380. S/W. To Hs. from Sg. C. to Whr. Sg13/D25.7.30. Re: R.R.A.I. I enclose copy of letter I wrote to Mr. Beaver on the 3rd. of July and original of his reply. You might…

Scan271 The investigation of subframes for the American operation (R.R.A.I.).
View original record COPY. X7380. To DA/EV. From Sg. c. to Hs. c. to Whr. Sg4/D29.7.30. X.7772. X.7380. Re: Subframes for R.R.A.I. Arising out of your DA/EV4/M22.7.30 I have received a memorandum from Oy. as per attached…

Scan272 Subframe for the L.H. P.ll, its vibration issues, and the suitability of wood in car bodies.
View original record COPY OF MEMO. FROM OY. DATED 28.7.30. ------------------------------------ SS. Subframe for L.H. P.ll. DA/EV4/M22.7.30 and others. May I suggest that on this subject generally the best plan would seem…

Scan273 Letter concluding a discussion on problems with Brewster bodies, signed by Maurice Olley.
View original record -2- of Brewster bodies is not one of our troubles at all. So I really think it would be best to let this problem work itself out by leaving both sides free to expand their best efforts towards a…

Scan274 Sub-frames, spare wheels, and chassis blueprints for the L.A.P. II Chassis project.
View original record HS X7380 To BY from Sg. Copy to Es. Wer. re L.A.P.II Chassis Sg28/E2.9.30 On my return I have received BY3/G21.8.30. The position in regard to sub-frames is that you will doubtless recollect on my…

Scan275 Sg. to BY regarding the supply of blueprints requested by Mr. Beaver.
View original record To BY from Sg. Sg28/E2.9.30 - 2 - I should be glad to know whether blue prints have yet been supplied. If not, is there any reason why we should not send them a supply forthwith? I have a letter from…

Scan276 Tests on the Phantom II chassis regarding the removal of the flexible subframe mounting.
View original record To Sg. From Hs. c. to WOr. c. to EY. Handwritten: 87380. Hs.2/MJ.3.9.30. Stamped: x???? x7380 x7600 LEFT-HAND PHANTOM 11 CHASSIS. Replying to Sg28/22.9.30. We have carried out tests on the Phantom 11…

Scan277 The use of subframes on the 20 HP model and the standard placement for spare wheels.
View original record -2- in which the final test report states the car to be very good and the owner satisfied. The other advantages which we expect from the subframe, like less wear and tear on the bodywork, can only be…

Scan278 Instructing a department to omit the subframe from the American L.H. Phantom II chassis programme.
View original record Sgs. c. Wcr. c. Hs. x7380. BY3/G.3.9.30. [Stamp: RECEIVED SEP 3 1930] H- ------------------------------ RE L.H. PHANTOM II CHASSIS. ------------------------------ We appreciate the position very fully…

Scan279 Request to confirm work on a universal subframe for a short type Phantom chassis.
View original record [Text Struck Through] from RHC. c. Hs. x7380 RHC1/BEL.10.30. Re: New Car for "R". Hs., has requested us to put in hand a universal subframe suitable for the short type Phantom.Chassis. We shall be…

Scan280 Conference report detailing subframe fitting issues and agreed accuracy limits.
View original record BY. FROM DA/EV. X4380 DA/EV1/M2.10.30. C. to WOR.C.SFT. C. to SG. HS. EP. JLE. re. SUBFRAME - P. 2. This is a report of the conference held at Park Ward's between BY/CGH. EP. JLE. EV. and a Works…

Scan281 List of specifications and agreed procedures for body mounting, including subframe dimensions, rear axle alignment, and bonnet contouring.
View original record (2) (7) We must put on the chassis print a definite dimension from the under side of the subframe to the under side of the body tack rail, thus - [Diagram with labels .500 and +-.150] which will give…

Scan282 The subframe for car 27-EX being sent to Messrs. Park Wards and the chassis specification.
View original record To EV. From Hs. c. to Hn. (Sales). 87^380 Hs.1/MJ.11.10.30. X.7380. X.8992. The subframe for 27-EX. car will be sent to Messrs. Park Wards on Monday. Generally, the specification of the chassis is…

Scan283 Questioning the request for wider wheels on a car, citing reduced maneuverability and potential legal issues in Europe.
View original record To EV. From Hs/Rn. X7380 Hs/Rn.4/WJ.21.10.30. X.7830. X.7380. X.7810. With reference to the new wheels which you called for on R's car being .375" further out on the rear. We always understood that…

Scan284 Implications of fitting new wheels to the Phantom II model.
View original record TO HS/RM. FROM DA/EV. x7380 EV2/24.10.30 x.7810. x.7830. x.7380. RE. PHANTOM II. WHEELS. We thank you for your Hs/Rm4/MJ.21.10.30. I was given to understand that you were anxious to have wheels at the…

Scan285 Recommendation to reduce the wheel cone angle to prevent paint damage on the spokes.
View original record (2) The reduction in the angle of the cone of the wheel would save the paintwork on the spokes from the damage which it now experiences. EV.

Scan286 Standardisation document for the universal subframe and related chassis parts.
View original record RR 785 REVISED (10H) (DG 348 19-7-29) 5M. 6/643. K7380 . COMPLETED 5.11.30 STANDARDISATION of CHASSIS PARTS. Date 19.8.30. No. 7380. Description of Parts. UNIVERSAL SUBFRAME AND CANTILEVER GEARBOX…

Scan287 Letter to Mr. Hives discussing the technical advantages of a three-point body subframe support system.
View original record ROLLS-ROYCE OF AMERICA, INC. SPRINGFIELD, MASS. Btn-1 January 26, 1931. [STAMP: POST RECEIVED FEB 5 1931] [STAMP: RECEIVED FEB 18 1931] [HANDWRITTEN: 87380] Rolls Royce, Ltd., Derby, England.…

Scan288 Analysis of sill bending loads and the effects of moving rear support points.
View original record - 2 - I am enclosing for your consideration my memo of June 23rd last year to Mr. Olley and prints: SK-403 - Analysis of Sill Bending loads for uniformly distributed load. SK-404 - Similar analysis…

Scan289 Fundamentals of body construction, load distribution, and bending moments.
View original record (C O P Y) Btn-1 June 23, 1930. To: Mr. Olley Cc- Mr. Beck Mr. Ainsworth From: Mr. Burton FUNDAMENTALS OF BODY CONSTRUCTION We are now experimenting with some bodies supported only on two points each…

Scan290 Fundamentals of body construction, including load distribution and bending moments.
View original record ( C O P Y ) Btn-1 June 23, 1930. To: Mr. Olley From: Mr. Burton Cc- Mr. Beck Mr. Ainsworth FUNDAMENTALS OF BODY CONSTRUCTION We are now experimenting with some bodies supported only on two points each…

Scan291 Design analysis for an ideal car sill, comparing uniform and concentrated load calculations.
View original record - 2 - This curve gives us the depth of an ideal sill of uniform width and variable depth that will satisfy our fundamental requirement of constant curvature under load. This is shown by curve II and…

Scan292 Report discussing chassis and body interferences concerning crossmembers, hangers, and wheel housing clearance.
View original record - 3 - (a) We have to have a body crossmember - i.e. heelboard - at this location and by supporting the body off a crossmember rather than the sill will relieve the sill of torsional loads that a…

Scan293 Proposed body suspension designs, experimental body construction, and patent considerations.
View original record - 4 - Possibly the English rear body suspension which can add lateral loads to the frame is a contributory cause of this, and this will be absent with our proposed 4 point suspension, where our…

Scan294 Design improvements for the rear spring front anchorage.
View original record DA. HS) FROM R. BY (At Le Canadel.) SECRET X7380 R2/M3. 2.31. C. to SG. WOR. C. to E. RHC. HY. JAPAN 3. REAR SPRING FRONT ANCHORAGE - N. SCH. 3201. X. 5410. X. 7380. If we are making new dies I think…

Scan295 Strongly disagreeing with a report to discontinue using subframes, citing past failures and suggesting further testing.
View original record TO. SG. FROM EV. COPY TO HS. RE SUBFRAMES. EVI/7.2.31. X.7380. HS.l/MJ.5.3.31. X.5380. I agree that we ought to reconsider the question of the subframe on P.II. From time to time every thing on the…

Scan296 Reviewing the use and cost-effectiveness of subframes, particularly on the 25 HP model.
View original record To Sg. From Hs. c. to Wor. c. to Da/EV. HS.1/U.5.3.31. X.7380. X.5380. SUBFRAMES. We think it would be a good time to review the question of subframes. If you take the case of the 25 HP., for several…

Scan297 From Sg. to Hs. regarding the need to discuss subframes before making a decision.
View original record R 7380. x 7380. xS380. To Hs. from Sg. re Subframes. Sg8/E9.3.31 Copy to Wor. DA/EV. Referring to Hs.1/MJ.5.3.31 I think before we take any decision on the lines suggested in the last paragraph we had…

Scan298 Frame jellying and steering tests conducted on three experimental Phantom II cars with varying configurations.
View original record FOR FILES. FRAME JELLYING AND STEERING TESTS PHANTOM II. Tests were carried out on the Ashbourne - Buxton Road with three cars - 27-EX. Four sandwich engine feet and std. front springs. 20-EX.…

Scan299 Engine booming and induction roar in car 27-EX, comparing its performance to car 26-EX.
View original record -2- The booming of 27-EX. with all the four engine feet fitted was not excessive up to 65 m.p.h. At 70 m.p.h. there was a considerable roar from the induction system presumably due to the carburetter.…

Scan300 Test report on an undamped frame stiffener to combat 'jellying' on car 25-EX.
View original record Copy for files. UNDAMPED FRAME STIFFENER. X7380 Gry. and Les. on the morning of 21.4.31. tested 25-EX for jellying. The car had low rating front springs, four sandwich front engine mounting, standard…

Scan301 'booming' in Phantom II models, relating to sub-frame versus direct-on-frame body construction.
View original record X7380 To Hs. from Sg. re P.II. Booms. sgll/E27.4.31. In a letter I have received from R. he says: "It has occurred to me that we cannot take the rear feet away from a sub-frame car because it would…

Scan302 'Jellying' issue, discussing the stiffening of vertical side members.
View original record HS. FROM DA. X7380 DA1/M28.4.31. P. 2. JELLYING. X.457. X.7380. With reference to the question of stiffening the side members vertically we have assumed that you would be experimenting with this…

Scan303 Confirming the dispatch and modification of a front dumb iron with a bumper pad.
View original record BY. FROM DA. C. to SG. Hs. FRONT DUMB IRON . J.1. X7380 DA1/M1 5. 5. 31. X. 7380. X. 4522. This is to confirm having despatched to you last night N. sch. 3277. - the front dumb iron provided with a…

Scan304 Frame distortion tests measuring the effect of engine mounting on torsional frame stiffness and front end jellying.
View original record To R. From Hs/Lid. c. to Sg. Wor. c. to E. Da. c. to Ly. X.8380. X.7380. X.457. X.7005. X.8005. FRAME DISTORTION TESTS P.II. E.A.C.VII. AND P.I. We have carried out a series of tests to measure the…

Scan305 Vehicle chassis jellying, damping, and engine mounting tests on various car models.
View original record (2) The next test was carried out on a P.I. car with solid rear feet and sheet aluminium dashboard Fig.VI. The obvious difference is the increase of damp-ing over P.II. in its stiffest condition which…

Scan306 Series of five graphs comparing frame deflection angle against torque under various test conditions.
View original record Graph 1 (Fig I): Title: 20 EX. FRAME DEFLECTION TESTS Legend: STANDARD, REAR ENGINE FEET OUT, STANDARD No BODY Graph 2 (Fig II): Title: 20 Ex. FRAME DEFLECTION TESTS, EFFECT OF EXTRA FRONT…

Scan307 From the Print Room showing a date stamp.
View original record ROLLS-ROYCE, LIMITED PRINT ROOM, 30 MAY 31

Scan308 Designs and testing procedures for deeper and stiffer chassis frames.
View original record X7380 TO HS. FROM EV. EV1/4.7.31. X.7380 C.5380 COPY TO E. RE DEEPER FRAMES. We have been asked to send you designs for a deeper frame for P. 2. and Japan 4. by 'R'. We are setting these out and at…

Scan309 Arrangements to test three 40/50 cars without sub-frames.
View original record Y7380. To Hs. from Sg. re Sub-Frames. Sgl/E13.7.31 Copy to R. Wor. BY. E. DA. You will recollect that some time ago you suggested that we should have a few cars put through without sub-frames in order…

Scan310 Outlining five suggestions for producing and testing deeper frame side members for the P.2 model.
View original record TO HS. FROM EV. X7380 EV1/13.7.31. X7380. DEEPER FRAME SIDE MEMBERS. P2. We have been looking into the ways and means of producing a car with deeper side members, with a view to testing their effect.…

Scan311 The trial of cars without subframes, detailing the positive results for the first car (31-GX) after 6,460 miles of continental use.
View original record RECEIVED 13 OCT 1931 Y7380. S/W. Hs. c. to Sg. Re- Subframes Cx7/KW2.10.31. You are no doubt aware of the fact that we are having three Company's cars put into commission without subframes, in order…

Scan312 Removal of subframes for economy, referencing the report on 31-GX and Springfield's production.
View original record Y7380. To Cx. From Hs. c. to Sg. Hs.4/MJ.3.10.31. SUBFRAMES. Replying to Cx.7/KW.2.10.31. We are interested in the report on 31-GX. without subframes. We think we ought to follow up this question of…

Scan313 Record of a telephone conversation discussing balance weights, exhaust pipe failures, and frame fittings for Phantom II and 20/25 HP models.
View original record E. Hs. BY/Cgh. BY/SS. X7380. (X7010. (X5230. X7380. BY.2/G. 22.10.31. TELEPHONE CONVERSATION WITH WW. 21.10.31. PHANTOM II. BALANCE WEIGHTS. E. remarked over the 'phone that he intended getting out a…

Scan314 Continued necessity of subframes due to a new engine mounting system.
View original record S/W. Hs. (e. to Eg) [e. to is struck through] [RECEIVED stamp with clock face and 1931] x7380. x5380. re Subframes. [re is struck through] Cx8/KW/5.11.31. Replying to Hs4/MJ/3.10.31. with regard to…

Scan315 Modified front and rear dumb irons for fitting bumpers to L.H. P.2 cars.
View original record X7380 BY. FROM DA. DA2/M10.11.31. X7380. C. to SG. HS. P. 2. BUMPER FIXINGS. We send herewith N. scn. 3361 shewing modified front and rear dumb irons to enable bumpers to be fitted, and which will not…

Scan316 Experimental deeper side members and cross members for the Phantom II chassis.
View original record DA. [strikethrough] c. R. c. Hs. X7380. BY.2/G.11.11.31. PHANTOM 11. We have obtained the experimental pair of deeper side members for P.11., which were instructed by you for the purpose of trying out…

Scan317 Lack of experience with diamond mounting on car bodies not built on sub-frames for 40/50 and 20/25 models.
View original record S/W N7380. To Hs. from Sg. re Diamond Mounting X.7005. X.7380. X.5005. X.5380. Sg12/S16.11.31. Referring to the above and the question of not using sub frames on 40/50's, would you please let me know…

Scan318 Improvements to the torsional stiffness of frames for larger cars.
View original record Y7380 HS. FROM R. R3/M28.11.31. Sent off 30.11.31. C. to SG. WOR. BY. re. LARGER CARS. X.634. X.7380. My impression is that we must do something to improve these in torsional stiffness so that the…

Scan319 Follow-up memo expressing concern over using diamond mounted engines on chassis with bodies that lack sub-frames.
View original record S/W 87380. x7005. To Hs. from Sg. re Diamond Mounting Sg22/E30.11.31. I do not appear to have received any reply to Sg12/E16.11.31. The point I am rather concerned about is whether we are going to run…

Scan320 Diamond engine mounting and frame stiffness on Phantom 1 and Phantom II cars.
View original record To Sg. From Hs. n7380. Hs.3/MJ.1.12.31. X7005. DIAMOND ENGINE MOUNTING. Replying to Sg.12/El6.11.31. On the last batch of Phantom 1 cars which had rubber engine feet at the rear, the stiffness of the…

Scan321 The schemes for deeper side members for the Phantom II frame construction.
View original record X7380. DA C. Hs. BY.14/G.8.12.31. PHANTOM 11 - RE DEEPER SIDE MEMBERS. In BY.2/G.11.11.31. we wrote asking for your method of treatment with the deeper members for the frame construction. We would…

Scan322 Urgent memo requesting the method for building a chassis with deeper side members.
View original record X7380 To By. from Hs/Lid. Hs/Lid.7/KT.21.12.31. DEEPER SIDE MEMBERS. P.2. Will you please issue as early as possible the method of treatment to be used in building up a chassis with the deeper side…

Scan323 Use of sub-frames on the 40/50 HP chassis, comparing rigidity and 'jellying' on two specific cars.
View original record S/W Hs....from C. x7380. RECEIVED 20 MAY 1932 C10/C19.5.32 We were discussing recently the question of sub-frames and as to whether we can do away with this feature on the 40/50 h.p. chassis. We…

Scan324 Requesting a decision on sub-frames for car bodies being ordered for the Paris and Olympia Shows.
View original record LES X7380. S/W Hs. C11/C3.6.32 Re Sub-Frames. RECEIVED 4 JUN 1932 With further reference to C10/C19.5.32, we shall be ordering bodies for the Paris and Olympia Shows shortly now, and if it is possible…

Scan325 Urging an immediate decision on whether to build bodies with or without sub-frames for cars intended for the Paris Show.
View original record LES X7380/ same HS S/W Hs..from C. RE SUB-FRAMES. RECEIVED 1932 JUN 13 H With reference to my previous memos. upon this point, I am afraid we must make up our minds definitely almost immediately in…

Scan326 The decision to cease using subframes in future car models and to inspect existing cars without them.
View original record Y7380. To C. From Hs. Re. SUBFRAMES. Cx.15/C.15.6.32. Any future cars we make will be made without subframes. Our recommendation is to leave off the subframe. We should like to send one of our men to…

Scan327 Recommending to hold up F.11 material, pending an agreement to delete subframes on future 40/50 hp cars.
View original record To BY. From Hs. c. to Wor. 87380. Hs.4/MJ.17.6.32. F.11 MATERIAL. We are expecting to get an agreement to delete subframes on future 40/50 hp. cars, so that we recommend you hold up this material if…

Scan328 Recommendation to omit a sub-frame and mentioning specific car examples.
View original record S/W Hs...from C. [Handwritten]: LES See me XJ80 HS [Typed]: C8/C17.6.32 Re SUBFRAMES. [Typed in red]: Hs3/MJ17.6.32 ----- [Stamped]: RECEIVED [Stamped]: 1932 JUN 18 [Typed]: I note your recommendation…

Scan329 Cause and a potential solution for chassis 'jellying' by using a sub-frame.
View original record x7380. RHC. From Hs/Les. Hs/Les.6/MA.6.7.32. JELLYING P.2. x457. A bare chassis does not jelly. We think jellying is caused from the rigidity of the body. We should like a sub frame which is immensely…

Scan330 Decision on whether to use subframes for the 40/50 HP chassis for show cars versus customer cars.
View original record S/W. Rm. X7380. re- Subframes. Cx25/KW8.7.32. Arising out of your test of 61-JS, we have already given instructions that the 40/50 h.p. chassis for Olympia and the Paris Salon need not necessarily…

Scan331 Requesting a reply regarding the potential abandonment of subframes on the 40/50-HP chassis.
View original record S/W. Rm. X7380. Cx5/H.15.7.32. Re: Subframes. Can you yet let me have a reply to my Cx25/KW.8.7.32. on the question of whether we can abandon subframes entirely on 40/50-HP. Chassis. Cx. RECEIVED 18…

Scan332 Decision to delete the body subframe on the Phantom II chassis.
View original record COPY. To R. From Hs. c. to Sg. Wor. c. to C. Rg. c. to Da. By. c. to EP. E. c. to PN. BODY SUBFRAMES. We are asked to give a decision whether we can delete the subframe on Phantom ll chassis. This was…

Scan333 Note on subframes and a standardisation sheet sent for agreement.
View original record x7380. To Cx. From Hs. Hs.3/MJ.18.8.32. x5380. Attached herewith copy of a note we have sent round re. subframes. You will note that we have sent a Standardisation Sheet round to get this agreed to.…

Scan334 Discontinuation of body subframes and seeking a timeline for implementation on the 40/50-HP chassis.
View original record S/W. Hs. c. to Sg. Wor. c. to C. Rg. c. to Da. By. c. to BP. E. c. to PN. X7380 Cx9/H.21.7.32. Re: Body Subframes. Thanks for Hs2/MJ.18.7.32., We are naturally very interested in this as we shall be…

Scan335 The plan to delete body subframes for the O.2 series and questioning completion for the N.2 series.
View original record 7380. W/S (Cx). [crossed out] c. Wor. [crossed out] c. Hs. [STAMP: RECEIVED 17 AUG '32] BY/Cgh.15/G.11.8.32. RE: BODY SUBFRAMES. --------------------- With reference to Cx.9/H.21.7.32. the Works will…

Scan336 The supply and potential deletion of body subframes for N.2 and O.2 series chassis.
View original record COPY. W/S (Cx). c. Wor. (Struck through) c. Hs. X7380 BY/Cgh.15/G.11.8.32. RE: BODY SUBFRAMES. With reference to Cx.9/H.21.7.32. the Works will have sufficient material to make subframes for all N.2…

Scan337 Persistent issue of radiator wing movement and frame 'jellying' on the Phantom II model.
View original record X7380 To R. from Hs. c. Sg. Wor. c. E. Da. c. By. Hdy. Hs.S/MA.18.8.32. X457 X7350 P.II RADIATOR WING MOVEMENT AND FRAME JELLYING. This complaint is always with us, in fact some of the completed cars…

Scan338 Tests conducted on mounting the radiator to the engine for the Phantom II.
View original record Re. MOUNTING OF RADIATOR ON ENGINE PHANTOM II. A number of tests were carried out on rough roads in France to find out the value of the radiator mounted on the engine. The tests proved that under the…

Scan339 Discontinuation of supplying body subframes due to economic and standardization reasons.
View original record X7380. S/W.(BY/Ogh) c. to Mr. c. " Hs. Plan II re- Body Subframes. Cx6/KW30.8.32. BY/Ogh15/G11.8.32. In reply to your memo, we are not at all keen to continue supplying subframes, even though you may…

Scan340 Inquiry regarding the discontinuation of fitting body subframes on the 40/50 chassis.
View original record S/W. Byfleet. [struck through] c. to [redacted] Hs. X7380 Cx18/KW12.9.32. re- Body Subframes. Further to my Cx6/KW30.8.32, can you please say yet if it has been decided to discontinue forthwith the…

Scan341 The replacement of body subframes with body brackets after chassis 118-MS.
View original record W/S. c. Wor. c. Hs. X7380. BY./Cgh.2/G.14.9.32. RE: BODY SUBFRAMES. With reference to Cx.18/KW.12.9.32. we have arranged that after chassis 118-MS., subframes will not be supplied, and body brackets…

Scan342 Proposal for the deletion of the body sub-frame to reduce cost and weight.
View original record RR 755 (10M) (19120, 13-10-31) BM. S/7558. COMPLETED 14.10.32. X-7380. STANDARDISATION of CHASSIS PARTS. Date 18.7.32. X No. 7380 Drawing No. Part List Description of Parts. DELETION OF BODY…

Scan343 Standardisation of chassis parts.
View original record STANDARDISATION of CHASSIS PARTS Ref. No. X 4691 Date 15.10.32 The number of the first chassis on which the new part will be fitted..... O.2. Series. Date when chassis will be handed to…

Scan344 Request to drill the subframe girders to attach lead weights for testing frame jellying.
View original record x7380 To RHC. From Hs/Les. Hs/Les3/MJ.25.10.32. Ph2. STIFF SUBFRAME. Will you please drill the overhanging ends of the girders on the above subframe, so that we can attach lead weights. The object…

Scan345 List of parts and modifications for the 3rd and 4th crossmembers on the Phantom II chassis to permit wells in the rear floor.
View original record Y 7380.. BY/HEB16/M.28.7.33. C. Hn/Rm. PHANTOM II. CHASSIS. FRAMES AND FITTINGS SEC:7000. MODIFIED 3RD & 4TH. CROSSMEMBER TO PERMIT WELLS IN THE REAR FLOOR TO "N" SCHS: 3712/4. In accordance with the…

Scan346 List of parts no longer required and instructions regarding modifications to the 3rd and 4th crossmembers.
View original record -2- BY/HEB16/M.28.7.33.-Contd- The following parts will not be required.- K.A1110 Bolt(End Socket(3rd Crossmember). 4 off. K. 1113 " (Rear Spring Anchor Bracket). 8 " K. 9010 Washer(End Socket(3rd…

Scan347 Modifications to the frontal appearance of the Phantom II, specifically regarding a dropped front crossmember.
View original record X7380 To Sg. from E. E.7/HP.5.1.34. c. Mon. Hs. By. EV. re Phantom 2 Frontal Appearance with dropped front crossmember. Referring to your recent memo in which you mention the front apron of the…

Scan348 Expressing concern over proposed changes to the starting handle mechanism, which requires disconnecting the thermostat control.
View original record H3 X7380 To E. from Sg. Re P.II Frontal Sg15/E10.1.34 Copy to Wor.Hs.Br. Appearance with Ev. Cr. Dropped front Crossmember. I am in receipt of E.7/HP.5.1.34 and have carefully examined the blue…

Scan349 From Sg. to E. with suggestions for camouflaging a radiator and shutters.
View original record To E. from Sg. Sg15/E10.1.34 - 2 - I think that the (handwritten: in the) whole radiator and shutters can be neatly camouflaged and I have made one or two suggestions to Ev. to-day, asking him to see…

Scan350 Modification to lower the stepirons by two inches on the 25 HP and P.2 models.
View original record HS X7380 S/W. W of. c. to Sg. E. c. " BY.Hs. c. " C. Hn. Ev. Re- Stepirons - 25 h.p. and P.2. Cx4/KW14.3.34. With reference to Ev2/13.2.34 on this subject, we have now carefully studied some drawings…

Scan351 Standardisation of a concealed front cross member, headlamp mounting, and front apron.
View original record RR 785 (sh) (52674, 10-10-33) BM. 3/262/6. COMPLETED 18.6.34. 40/50 STANDARDISATION of PARTS. Date 1.5.34. X No. 7380 Drawing LEC. No. 3751. Part List Description of Parts. CONCEALED FRONT CROSS…

Scan352 Cost estimation for a parts standardisation modification on the 'S' series, including equipment and scrap values.
View original record STANDARDISATION of PARTS X Est. cost of extra jigs, tools and equipment (Sft/Ws.15.5.34) £665.0.0. This modification is already instructed for 51 in "S" series. The cost of the scrap will be £146.0.0.…

Scan353 Standardisation of parts for creating wells in the rear floorboards to obtain lower seating.
View original record RR 785 (EH) (52674, 16-10-33) BM. 3/262/c. COMPLETED 29.6.34. 40/50 STANDARDISATION of PARTS. Date 12-6-34 Date 1.6.34. X No. 7380. Drawing No. N.S. 3712/4 Part List Description of Parts. REAR CROSS…

Scan354 Estimated cost for extra jigs, tools, and equipment for the 'S2' series.
View original record STANDARDISATION OF PARTS Est. cost of extra jigs, tools and equipment.(Sft/Ws.25.5.34). £282.0.0. Already instructed for 'S2' series.

Scan355 Standardising the dropped front crossmember for the 25-HP and Bentley models.
View original record Y7350 To Hs/Rm. from EV. EV.4/HP.11.7.34. c. W. Ox. Hn. [Struck through] Rm [Handwritten] re Dropped Front Crossmember. The dropped front crossmember on the Phantom has been standardised and will be…

Scan356 Test results for Phantom II frame distortion under varying loads.
View original record To Hs/Gry: 47380 HS/GR. 8/KW.18.3.35. Ph.II Frame Distortion. No front engine crossmember and no radiator member. 1st point Front crossmember } 69" 2nd " C/L Tie Rod Stanchion } 67.25" 3rd " Body…

Scan357 Description of a frame test setup with applied loads.
View original record Frame supported on trestle at/in. centre of points 2 & 3. N.S.R. shackle anchored to bed by cable & O.S.R. supported on trestle. Loads applied N.S. up & O.S. down. Hs/G.Ratcliffe.

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