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Confirming the position of the engine in the frame by referencing full-sized layout drawing N.sch.2084.
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To BY. from DA. c. to CJ. Hs. X7380 DA3/M4.11.25. EAC. 8. ENGINE POSITION IN FRAME ETC. X. 7380 X. 7770 We send herewith N.sch.2084 shewing a full sized layout of the front end of engine, radiator,…
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Accompanying schematic N.sch.2090 with information to enable ordering of frame side members.
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To BY. from DA. c. to CJ. Hs. +7380 DA3/M19.11.25. EAC.7. FRAME ETC. X.7380 X.7770 We send herewith N.sch.2090 shewing an outline of the frame side members together with information as to the position…
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Drawing showing the general arrangement of the front end of the frame, detailing steering lock and clearance with balloon tyres.
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To BY. from DA. c. to CJ. Hs. X. 7380 DA6/M27.11.25. EAC. 7. FRONT END OF FRAME. We send herewith N.sch.2093 shewing the gen.arrgt. of the front end of the car. We shew 34° lock with a clearance of…
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Design of the front cross member, radiator, and suspension, referencing schematic N.sch.2103.
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To BY. from DA. c. to CJ. Hs. X7380 DA3/10.12.25. EAC.7: FRONT CROSS MEMBER, RADIATOR SUSPENSION ETC. 7350 X.7380 X.7250 We send herewith N.sch.2103., shewing the sheet metal cross member, radiator…
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Revision to the frame side member for a 66-inch rear spring.
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X. 7380 To BY. from DA. c. to CJ. Hs. DAI/M22.12.25. EAC. 7. FRAME SIDE MEMBER. Herewith we send N.sch. 2104 shewing the frame side member revised for a 66" rear spring, in accordance with Mr. Royce's…
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Investigations and proposals for the EAC.7 frame tie layout, referencing several schematics.
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To BY. from DA. c. to CJ. Hs. X.7380 DA7/Ms.1.26. EAC.7. FRAME TIES. We send herewith N.sch.2098 shewing the layout of the EAC.7. tie-bars. We have investigated this layout diagrammatically and find…
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Rejection of a Hooper body and the urgent search for a suitable alternative for the E.A.C.VIII chassis.
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HS V7380 EV1.23.1.26. to C/Hn. from EV. copy to HS. re BODY FOR E.A.C.VIII. We thank you for your C/Hn19/ED1/21.1.26 and the enclosed prints of the bodies which are available. We are sorry to say that…
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Suggestions for the rear spring front anchorage, awaiting Mr. Royce's feedback.
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To BY. from DA/HDY. c. to CJ. Hs. ========== 47380 DA/Hdy1/M17.2.26. BAC.7. REAR SPRING FRONT ANCHORAGE. X.7130 X.7410 X.7380 We send herewith N.sch.2132., 2138 and 2144 shewing suggestions for the…
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Alternative schemes for a frame gusset for the 2nd cross member.
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To BY. from DA/HDY. c. to CJ. Hs. X. 7380 DA/HDY2/M17.2.26. EAC.7. FRAME GUSSET. We send herewith N.sch.2143 shewing an alternative scheme for the frame gusset for the 2nd. cross member. N.sch.2132…
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Schematics for the rear end of the EAC.7 chassis, noting differences from the EAC.1 model.
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To BY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. +7380 DA3/M26.4.26. EAC.7. REAR END. X.7770 X.9720 X.7400 X.7380 X.9380 Herewith we send N.sch.2168/69/70., shewing the rear end of the EAC.7. chassis. N.sch.2168 deals…
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Pedal design and schematics for the EAC-7 car, noting clutch travel issues.
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To BY. from DA+ c. to BJ. Hs. X7380 DA1/M31.5.26. EAC-7 PEDALS. X.8470 X.7380 Herewith we send N.schs. 2197/8/9, shewing the pedals for the above car. The arrangement is approximately the same as…
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The body subframe scheme for vehicle E.A.C.VII, including welding instructions and component specifications.
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to BY. from EV. copy to BJ. and HS. X7380 EV1/11.6.26. BODY SUBFRAME SECRET E.A.C.VII. X.7830. We send herewith N.Scheme 2207. shewing the body subframe for E.A.C.VII. We wish to make all the full…
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Experimental bodies, refuting an argument about a subframe's weakness and discussing future construction.
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To Hs. from DA/EV. X7380 DA/EV1/M29.6.26. RE: EXPERIMENTAL BODIES. X.8830 X.8380 X.7830 X.7380 We thank you for hs4/LG25.6.26. Your memo. enables us to prove that the argument used by Barkers' to…
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Proposed experimental method for stiffening the front scuttle armature using a cast dash.
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To BY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. (X7380) DA3/M17.7.26. SCUTTLE ARMATURES WITH CAST DASHES. X. 7380 X. 7500 X. 8500 X. 7940 Herewith we send N.sch.2236 shewing the proposed method of stiffening the front…
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Modifications to rear brake operating gear and frame gussets to fit hydraulic shock dampers.
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To BY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. X7380 DA3/M23.7.26. EAC.7. REAR BRAKES. X.360 X.380 Herewith we send N.sch. 2232 shewing the modifications to the rear brake operating gear and frame gussets, which are…
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Modification to the frame cross members to prevent a bolt from fouling the subframe.
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To BY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. X. 7380 DA8/M23. 7. 26. EAC-7 FRAME CROSS MEMBERS. With reference to the top bolt of the rear spring front anchorage fouling the subframe, we send herewith N. sch. 2242…
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Modifications for a subframe, specifically the position of a middle support and a front support modification.
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To BY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. X.7380 DA7/M23.7.26. EAC-7 - SUBFRAME. We send herewith print of N.sch.2207 on which we have marked in pencil the position of a middle support for the subframe should it…
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Modifications to Phantom and EAC. 8 subframes to address frame breakage and rubber support issues.
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To EY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. +7380E DA5/M23.7.26. PHANTOM AND EAC. 8. SUBFRAMES. X.8380 X.7380 We send herewith N. sch. 2241 shewing a modification to the rear supports of the subframe on the above…
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Requesting a modification to the position of a subframe's second crossmember.
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to BY from Da/EV. copy to HS. X7380 EV1/16.8.26. RE SUBFRAME E.A.C.VII. We have now made a Coachbuilder's Print for the subframe of EAC.XII of which we presume that you are now making one for the…
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Modification to a subframe second cross member dimension due to auxiliary seats.
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BY. FROM DA/EV. X7380 DA/EV1/M3.9.26. Copy to - HS. ORIGINAL EAC.7. SUBFRAME. X7380 Further to our EV1/16826., we have now had further consultations with the coachbuilders, and find that we wish to…
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Drawing N.sch. 2257 for a 3rd cross member, questioning the feasibility of making sharp bends in the tube.
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X. 7380 To BY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. DA8/M3. 9.26. EAC. 7. 3rd. CROSS MEMBER. Herewith we send N.sch. 2257 shewing the proposed set in the above cross member. The reason for making this drawing is…
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Strengthening the front and rear step irons and positioning the intermediate ones.
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X.7380 To BY. from DAS c. to BJ. Hs. DA7/143.9.26. EAC.7. STEP IRONS. We send herewith N.schs. 2259/60 shewing respectively the front and rear stepirons. We have taken the opportunity of strengthening…
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Confirming the dispatch of a subframe for EAC.7 to Messrs. Hoopers, Coachbuilders, Chelsea.
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X7380 To DA/EV. from Hs. Hs1/LG22.9.26. EAC-7 - SUBFRAME. X7380 We have despatched the subframe suitable for EAC.7. to Messrs. Hoopers, Coachbuilders, Chelsea. Hs.
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Standardisation of chassis parts, specifically the front wing stay.
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RR 755 (10H) (DB130 12-9-24) MS 301225 X7380 COMPLETED 23.2.27 STANDARDISATION of CHASSIS PARTS. Date 22.9.26 Description of Parts FRONT WING STAY. X No. 7380 Drawing No. N.sch. 2136 Origin: Complete…
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Issues with step irons on various car models and proposing design improvements.
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47380 To R. from DA/EV. c. to BJ. Wor. Hs. C. BY. LHS. PN. SG. DA/EV2/M11.3.27. RE. STEP IRONS. X.8380 X.5380 X.7380 20 HP. The 20 HP. stepirons have always been considered by the coachbuilders to be…
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Confirmation note typed onto a copy of a memo regarding chassis delivery and testing arrangements.
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JS/LG 16.9.38 CHASSIS WHC 1 We have instructions under your note of the 20th August to have a MULLINER saloon on this chassis to be delivered to you in London. We will arrange for this. DA/EV. CHASSIS…
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Instructing the production and fitting of parts to an experimental chassis to improve steering geometry.
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C. Hs/Rm. X7380 BY/HEB11/M.2.5.27. RECEIVED MAY 3 1927 E.A.C.7. CHASSIS. FRAMES AND FITTINGS SEC:7000. Further to our memo' BY/HEB6/M.28.4.27, please receive one blue print of each of the following:-…
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Lowering the chassis frame using a smaller back axle bevel gear and a hypoid gear.
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To DA. from R. c. to BJ. Hs. BY. +7380 LOWERING OF CHASSIS FRAME. X. 8380 X. 5380 X. 7380 X. 2066 It is quite evident that we must on any future chassis get the frame lower. To do this it is necessary…
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Scan029 |
Issue of new and modified parts to improve the steering geometry on the E.A.C.7 chassis.
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X7380 C. Ha/Rm. BY/HEB1/M.4.6.27. E.A.C.7. CHASSIS. FRAMES AND FITTINGS SEC:7000. Further to our memo' BY/HEB6/M.28.4.27, and BY/HEB11/M.2.5.27, by which we issued a complete new Rear Anchor Bracket…
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Scan030 |
Producing frames and side members for experimental car models EAC.10 and EAC.12.
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To BY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. X7380 DA2/EV8.7.27. RE. FRAME FOR EAC.10. X.7380 X.2066 We send herewith N.sch.2429 shewing the frame for EAC.10. and EAC.12. In order to avoid making more dies for…
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Request to build a half-size model of an 'X' shaped frame cross member for torsional stiffness testing.
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BY¾ from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. X7380 DA3/M25.11.27. EAC.10 FRAME CROSS MEMBERS. X. 7380 X. 8380 Herewith we send N. schs. 2512 and 2513, shewing the 'X' shaped 4th. cross member in the EAC.10 frame. R.…
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Scan032 |
The supply and fitting of step brackets and running boards for a sports chassis.
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BY. HS. from DA/EV. +7380 DA/EV1/M22.12.27. RE. STEP BRACKETS & RUNNING BOARDS: X. 7390 X. 7380 We send herewith N.schs. 2529/30 shewing the step brackets which we wish you to provide on the sports…
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Issues with a dummy Alpine Sports Chassis at Hooper's, proposing modifications and requesting a correct second dummy for Barker's.
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+7380 Ms. from DA/EV. c. to BY. RE. DUMMY OF ALPINE SPORTS CHASSIS. X.7770 X.7380 X.7500 X.7390 We have got this dummy at Hooper's and have not found it of any real use to us because it has not got a…
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Arrangement of a tool box step and its associated brackets.
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Hs to from EV. X7380? EV3/30.12.27. copy to Hs. TOOL BOX STEP. E.A.C 14. N. Sch 2571 We send herewith the arrangement of the tool box step. As Derby are only making the brackets for carrying this…
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Schematic N.sch.2541, which details the front anchorage of the rear springs and brake carrier levers.
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47380 BY. From DA. c. to BJ. Hs. DA1/M31.1.28. EAC.10 FRONT ANCHORAGE OF REAR SPRINGS. & BRAKE CARRIER LEVERS ETC. X.7410 X.7380 We send herewith N.sch.2541 shewing the front anchorage of the rear…
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Recent experiments and conclusions on engine mounting.
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R. from E. c. to BJ. Hs. Rn. X7380 E1/M4.2.28. EAC.10 ENGINE MOUNTING. X.7380 X.7005 X.634 X.7830 In discussing recent experiments on engine mountings during visits to Derby, we arrived at the…
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Engine mounting, referencing experimental observations on torque reaction and frame distortion.
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+7380 To E. from Hs/Rn. Hs/Rnl/LG20.2.28. EAC.1C ENGINE MOUNTING. +7005 With reference to E1/M4.2.28. From our experimental observations on torque reaction and frame distortion, we do believe that the…
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Stability and adjustable length of the Phantom Sports steering column.
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DA. HS. from R. c. to BJ. Wor. BY. E. +7380 RL/M1.3.28. PHANTOM SPORTS STEERING COLUMN. X.6430 X.7430 I noticed that the steering column was not as steady on this car as on my car at Le Canadel. Can…
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Engine suspension for the EAC.10 model, particularly the use of rubber mountings to mitigate torsion from chassis frame twist.
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R. from E. c. to BJ. Hs. BY. 47380 E6/M7.3.28. EAC.10 ENGINE SUSPENSION. X.7005 X.7380 As a result of the experience with EAC.14 engine mounting, it is found desirable to use rubbers of very high…
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Static tests of the Phantom Sports Steering Column to assess movement due to frame deflection.
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To R. from Hs. c.c. to BJ. Wor. c.c. to H. DA. c.c. to BY. X7380 Hsl/LG9. 3. 28. PHANTOM SPORTS STEERING COLUMN. X7430 With reference to R1/M.3.28. In addition to our report on the tests carried out…
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Static stiffness tests on a Continental Phantom frame, measuring frame deflection and steering column movement.
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Hs/Tsn/LG9.3.28. CONTINENTAL PHANTOM FRAME - STIFFNESS TESTS ETC: A series of static tests have been done on complete chassis in order to settle two points :- (1) To determine the amount of frame…
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Experiments on frame twist and the torsional stiffness of a chassis.
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contd :- -2- the steering wheel to a more serious extent on the sports than on the standard car. This experiment takes no account of the column 'dithering' due to insufficient support, but was merely…
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Frame twist percentages for various front wheel lift scenarios on different chassis.
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contd :- -3- In the following table α is the twist at A. and β that at B. β/α is shown as a percentage for various front wheel lifts. 17-EX. Wheel lifted. β/α % average. O.S. 2" 56.6 ) 4" 62.1 ) 60.3%…
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Requesting the return of an experimental model frame cross member for testing.
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To DA. from Hs/Rn. X7380 Hs/Rnl/LGM/9.3.28. XB380 [crossed out] We should like you to let us have the experimental model frame cross member back if you can spare it in order that we may carry out some…
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Disassembly of a frame cross and suggesting modifications to reduce its components for testing.
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Hs/Rm. from DA. 47380 DA2/M22.3.28. X. 8380 X. 7380 Replying to Ms/RmL/LG19.3.28., we are returning the frame cross under separate cover, as requested. You will see that we have had it to pieces, and…
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The layout, geometry, and components for the 'SS' side steering tube.
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47380 BY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. DAA/M26.3.28. 'SS' SIDE STEERING TUBE. X.7450 X.7410 X.7380 Herewith we send N.sch.2567 shewing the layout of the steering, side steering tube, front end of frame etc.…
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Issues with a weak forward body support spring and requesting a modification for the Barker car.
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Hs. from DA/EV. c. to BJ. R. BY. X7380 DA/EV2/M27.3.28. EAC.14 - FORWARD BODY SUPPORT. X.7530 X.7580 X.7410 We note that the 50 lbs. spring was too weak and that the body lifted too vigorously from…
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Proposals for the rear end of the frame and its various components.
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47380 To BY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. DA3/M31.3.28. EAC.10 REAR END OF FRAME, ETC. X.7600 X.7380 X.7400 Herewith we send N.schs. 2556/7/8/9/71., shewing our proposals for the spare wheel carrier,…
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Modifications to the 'SS' front axle and frame, including lowering the axle and bearing options.
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X7380 DA. HS. BY. from R. c. to BJ. Wor. E. R6/M7.4.28. 'SS' FRONT AXLE AND FRAME. X. 7420 X. 7380 I like the axle .750 lower - i.e. new forging because it will improve the appearance, as the same…
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Design issues and proposals for the rear end, wheel carrier, and luggage grid of the SS. EAC.10 chassis.
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To R. from Ev. c. to BJ. Hs. +7380 EV1/14.4.28. EAC.10 'SS'. REAR END. X.7600 X.7400 X.7380 We are sorry to have disappointed you with our designs for the rear end of the SS. EAC.10 chassis, by…
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Luggage carrier schemes and the urgent need for a rear-end chassis frame design.
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contd :- -2- carrier and the luggage platform. The coachbuilder would either provide luggage space in a boot extension of the body or in a specially shaped Brooks Type Trunk. This third scheme is…
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Pending chassis designs and strongly recommending the use of subframes for body mounting.
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To R. from Hs. c. to BJ. Wor. c. to E. DA. c. to BY. /7380 Hs3/LGS.5.28. EAC.10. X.7770 X.7380 X.7830 We are looking into the question of what designs we are still waiting for before one of these…
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Sending items N/s. chs. 2593/4 for safekeeping in relation to 'SB' Lower Appearance.
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+7380 BY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. DA2/M5.5.28. "SB" LOWER APPEARANCE. X.7770 X.615 X.7380 Herewith we send N/s. chs. 2593/4 for safe custody, no work to be done on them at the moment. DA.
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Scan054 |
Proposal for the design of an 'SS' subframe and production of two examples for specific car bodies.
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X7380 ORIGINAL EV4/7.5.28. to Hs. from Ev. copy to Sr. RE "SS" SUBFRAME. We propose making a design for the subframe for "SS" as soon as we have completed the design of the rear end of India 3. We…
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Rebuilding of chassis 15-EX with a long frame, new radiator, and 'E' type steering.
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47380 Hs. from DA/EV. c. to - BY. DA/EV1/M16.5.28. 15-EX. X.7770 X.7430 X.7380 X.7250 You told us that 15-EX will be rebuilt as an ordinary chassis, not a sports chassis, and that it will have a long…
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Static tests conducted on an X-shaped cross member to improve frame rigidity and steering.
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To R. from Hs/Rm. c.c. to D.J. WGT. c.c. to D.A. EY. c.c. to E. X7380 Hs/RmL/L.19.5.28. X SHAPED CROSS MEMBER. X1131 We have conducted a number of static tests on the X shaped cross member. Attached…
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Test results for a model frame cross member under various load and configuration conditions.
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11.5.28. CROSS MEMBER TESTS - MODEL FRAME. Test No. 1. X member complete, including tubular member. " " 2. Tubular member removed. " " 3. Diagonal bracers removed. " " 4. Front, rear, and side gussets…
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Diagram illustrating the method for testing a 4-inch cross member on a model frame, with a list of test procedures.
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16-5-28 IH 1ST TEST CROSS MEMBER COMPLETE IM 2ND TEST TUBULAR MEMBER A REMOVED IN 3RD TEST DIAGONAL BRACERS B REMOVED (4 OFF) IN 4TH TEST FRONT REAR & SIDE GUSSETS C REMOVED IH 5TH TEST A B & C…
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Results of bending and shear tests on an 'X' shaped frame cross member.
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To R. from Hs/Rn. c.c. G.S. Woy. E. DA. BY. X7380 Hs/Rml/LG23.5.28. FRAME TESTS. X8380 We attach herewith two further tests on the 'X' shaped cross member. The bending test does not seem to have a…
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Model frame bending test results comparing a frame with an 'X' member to one with two extra tubular members.
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MODEL FRAME TESTS. Bending test. Frame horizontal. One channel clamped to bed, each transverse member supported on a roller at the centre, free channel loaded at centre of X; member. TEST WITH 'X'…
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Diagram illustrating a load-bearing structure with rollers and extra tubular members.
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LOAD, A, B, C, EXTRA TUBULAR MEMBERS., ROLLERS, CLAMPED HERE
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Shearing test report on a model frame, measuring deflection under load with different tubular members.
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MODEL FRAME TESTS. Shearing test. Frame vertical. One channel fixed to angle plate, the load being applied to the other, at its lowest extremity. | Load lbs. | X member & front tubular member. | | X…
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Querying frame heights and buffer clearance for model EAC.10.
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To D.A. from Hs/Rm. X7380 Hs/Rm6/LG31.5.28. FRAME HEIGHTS. X7380 X7410 We are not quite certain how much lower the frame of EAC.10 will be. Attached are some figures given to us by the D.O. Are these…
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Diagram comparing the frame heights for three different 40/50 HP chassis models.
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FRAME HEIGHTS 40/50 EAC7 22.825 TO GROUND EAC10 SS 22.500 TO GROUND F2B PHANTOM 23.325 TO GROUND
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The reverse of a document showing two identical Print Room date stamps from Derby.
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ROYCE, LIMITED PRINT ROOM, 31 MAY 1928 DERBY. 536
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Frame heights, modifications to the front axle, buffer clearance, and the potential use of hypoids to lower the chassis.
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Hs/Rn. from DA. 47380 DA5/M5. 6. 28. FRAME HEIGHTS. X. 7380 X. 7420 X. 5380 X. 615 X. 2066 Replying to Hs/Rn6/LG31.5.28., at the present moment 'SS' is 22.5" from the ground, and we have obtained this…
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The 'SS' Battery Cross Member, providing updated schematic information and design considerations.
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BY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. X. 7380 DA2/M15.6.28. "SS" BATTERY CROSS MEMBER. Herewith we send N.schs. 2631 giving the additional information as to the battery cross member which was promised on…
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Tests and modifications to improve the steering on the 40/50 HP model, addressing high-speed wobble and ride comfort.
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To R. from Hs/Rm. c.c. to BJ. Wor. c.c. to E. DA. c.c. to BY. OY. c.c. to PN. CWB. 47380 Hs/Rm2/LG5.7.28. 40/50 HP. STEERING. 47430 7457 Two factors have always limited the selectivity of the RR.…
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Vehicle frame stiffness, suspension damping, and handling characteristics at different speeds, comparing two experimental models.
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contd :- -2- The frame stiffness is worth having, because if we revert to single point mounting, which we can do in a few minutes on our existing experimental arrangement, we get more road shocks.…
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Further tests concerning wheel balance, frame stiffening, and steering characteristics.
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contd :- -3- From these further tests we still consider that having the tyres 1.75" out of centre point is a definite advantage; as you suggested we put the wheels out of balance and the consequent…
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Graph plotting torque versus twist angle to compare the torsional rigidity of different frame configurations.
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FOR THESE TESTS THE FRAME WAS SUPPORTED AT THE REAR ON JACKS THEREBY ELIMINATING THE FLEXIBILITY OF THE REAR SPRINGS. LOAD LEGEND: SOLID LINE: STANDARD FRAME DASHED LINE: PLUS X MEMBER UNDER RADIATOR…
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Blank document page with a Print Room receipt stamp.
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ROLLS-ROYCE, LIMITED PRINT ROOM 5 JUL 1928 DERBY.
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Blueprint of an X-shaped cross-member fitted to the 10-EX chassis.
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ENGINE MOUNTING IS PIVOTTED HERE 4" DEEP TO OBTAIN 2-POINT FRONT MOUNTING, DOWELS ARE INSERTED HERE. FISH PLATES X-SHAPED CROSS-MEMBER FITTED TO 10-EX
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Faint document page with a red ink stamp from the print room.
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ROLLS-ROYCE LIMITED PRINT ROOM, 5 JUL 1928 DERBY.
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Modifications to the 'SS' brake differentials and associated components.
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+7380. BY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. 'SS' BRAKE DIFFERENTIALS. When R. was in France he instructed us to make some modifications to the original arrangement of the brake differentials, and we send…
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Design changes to the 'SS' radiator, cross member, and suspension, comparing alternative sketches.
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BY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. X7380 DAL/M29.8.28. 'SS' RADIATOR, CROSS MEMBER, AND SUSPENSION. X.7250 X.7380 Herewith we send N.sch.2683 shewing the radiator and suspension and radiator cross member. It…
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Requesting immediate clarification on a revised front cross member to prevent work on cancelled parts.
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X7380 DA c. Hs. BY11/G.11.9.28. From N. Sch. 2684 it would appear that the front cross member which has been instructed is being revised, as apparently you have moved the front cross member a…
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The design and procurement of bodies and subframes for two EAC.10 cars.
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Hs. from DA/EV. c. to BY. X7380. DA/EV1/M10.9.28. EAC.10 FIRST CARS. X.7630 X.7380 X.7770 We are designing bodies and subframes for two EAC.10 cars, and hope to give all the particulars of the first…
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The numbering of the first three EAC.10 cars and the specifications for a coachbuilder's dummy frame.
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X7360 To DA/EV. from Hs. Hs1/LG12.9.28. EAC.10 - FIRST CARS. X7770 X7830 The numbers of the three EAC.10 cars will be 18-EX, 19-EX and 20-EX. 18-EX will be the car for R. As regards the dummy frame…
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Schematics for the 'SS' frame, including radiator cross members, suspension, and front cross member.
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X.7380 BY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. DA4/M13.9.28. 'SS' FRAME. In reply to BYll/Gll.9.28, we have sent you N.sch.2683 shewing the radiator cross members and suspension, and now we are sending you…
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Changing wheel and tyre sizes for the first 'SS' model to achieve a lower frame height.
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Hs. from DA/EV. c. to EY. SG. 47380 DA/EV1/MG.9.28. 'SS'. X.7770 X.7380 X.7820 X.615 X.7810 The first SS., which R. hopes to have in the south of France, will have a 4-seater saloon cabriolet body of…
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Sketch for the 'SS' front dumb iron and front horn, with a proposed aesthetic modification.
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BY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. X7380 DA2/IMD.9.28. 'SS' FRONT DUMB IRON ETC. X. 7380 X. 7550 We send herewith N.sch.2697 shewing the front dumb iron and front horn. The shackle is the same as that now…
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Alteration of drilling on an 'X' shaped cross member in the frame.
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BY. from DA. c. to BJ. Hs. X.7380 DAL/M13.9.28. 'SS' 'X' SHAPED CROSS MEMBER IN FRAME. Herewith we send N.sch. 2707 on which we have shewn the revised support for the silencer. The object of sending…
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Continued use of subframes, a new design for experimental cars 18-EX and 19-EX, and body production schedules.
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Hs. from DA/EV. 47380 DA/EV1/M14.9.28. c. to HY. EAC.10 FIRST CARS. X.7770 X.7380 X.7830 Thank you for your HsL/LG12.9.28. We have discussed the subject matter with R., and the only definite ruling we…
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Requesting four more pairs of S.S. chassis frames and detailing their production process.
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ROY. X 7380 c. RHC. c. Hs. BY2/G.30.10.28. S.S. CHASSIS. Please note that we want four more pairs of frames F.77470/1. These frames are produced by making a pressing to F.73986/7 and working the frame…
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Confirmation of a wire requesting the expected date for a subframe for chassis 18EX.
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X7380 CONFIRMATION OF WIRE. HIVES. ROYCAR. DERBY. WW. 10. 10. 28. PLEASE WIRE DATE WE MAY EXPECT SUBFRAME FOR 18EX. URGENT. EVERNDEN.
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Telegram urgently requesting the expected delivery date for a subframe for model 18= EX.
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B or C Charges to pay s. d. 12 11d This form, and if possible the envelope, should accompany any enquiry respecting this Telegram. From Pm / from L POST OFFICE TELEGRAPHS. X7380 No. Office Stamp 0170…
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From Hs. to DA/EV. regarding the delayed despatch of the subframe for 18-EX.
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To DA/EV. from Hs. X7350 Hs4/T18.10.28. The subframe for 18-EX will be despatched to Barkers tomorrow (Friday). We are sorry we are slightly over our original promise, but there was a certain amount…
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Weight of a subframe for car 18-EX and a query about ordering accessories.
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Y7380 To DA/EV. from Hs. Hsl/LG20.10.28. SUBFRAME FOR 18-EX. X7380 X.3594 We took the weight of the subframe before it was despatched to Barkers - this was found to be 90 lbs. We should like to know…
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Advising to have 1500 lbs. rear springs available for 'SS' body cars which are being fitted with subframes.
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To BY. from Hs/Rm. X7380 Hs/Rm4/LG31.10.28. X7410 In view of the fact that all the 'SS' bodies are going to have subframes, we consider it would perhaps be advisable to have a pair of 1500 lbs. rear…
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Use and benefits of steel underframes, and proposing to build a stock of 50 for the changeover to the SS Phantom model.
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Hs. BY. from R. c. to BJ. Wor. c. to DA. SG. c. to C. √7380 R3/M7.11.28. UNDERFRAMES. X.7380 X.5380 X.7880 It would seem certain that the use of a steel underframe improves the present coachbuilders…
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Confirmation of a wire regarding subframe and body production schedules and delivery dates.
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CONFIRMATION OF WIRE. X7380 WW. 9. 11. 28. HIVES. ROYCAR. DERBY. BARKERS CERTAIN NOV. 23rd. HOOPERS LOST WEEKS AWAITING SUBFRAME. DELIVERY XMAS. MAKE THREE SUBFRAMES N. SCH. 2694. ORDER DIES THIRD…
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The delivery schedule for subframes promised to London for Hoopers.
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To RHC. from Hs/Rn. X7380 11 Hs/Rn/LGLD. 1.Nov.28. SUBFRAMES. London have been promised one subframe for Hoopers by Nov. the 20th. i.e. in addition to the one despatched on the 10th. and three others…
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Confirming a telegram and telephone conversations regarding the dispatch schedule for experimental subframes and the acceptance of an enclosed limousine body from Hoopers.
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X7380 Cx/Hn5/JL.10.11.28. EV. Copy to Hs. Re: EXPERIMENTAL BODIES. I confirm my telegram to you of this morning as follows:- "HIVES CONFIRMS SUBFRAME WILL BE DISPATCHED BY TWENTIETH STOP FRAME FOR…
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Hooper enclosed limousine body for the 3rd 'SS' chassis 20-KX, detailing subframe delivery and completion deadlines.
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To BY. from Hs. c. to RHC. 47380 Hs2/LG12.11.28. 47830 The body for the 3rd. 'SS' chassis 20-KX is to be a Hooper enclosed limousine. It is to have a 'C' steering wheel. Subframe to N.sch.2694.…
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The advantages of using body subframes for reducing noise and simplifying body fitting.
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To R. from Hs. c. to BJ. LHS. c. to C. SG. c. to HO. DA/EV. X7380 HS3/LG13.11.28. BODY SUBFRAMES. X5380 (crossed out) X8350 Attc. corresn in original Over four years ago we went to a lot of trouble to…
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Arrangement for the collection of two sub-frames by coachbuilders Barkers and Hoopers for specific car numbers.
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JP. Copy to RV. Copy to Hs. Y7380 SUB FRAMES. With reference to the two sub-frames you recently received from W., we have asked Barkers to collect one and Hoopers the other. On your Delivery Notes…
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Request to make a subframe to schedule N.sch.2695 for chassis 23.EX.
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To RHC. from Hs/Rn. X7380 Hs/Rn9/LG13. 12. 28. X4663 Will you please make a subframe to N.sch.2695. This is for 23. EX. Hs/Rn.
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Analysis of 'radiator shiver' and vibrations relating to the axle, frame, and engine on the 20 HP model.
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Hs. DA. FROM R. BY. 47380 R2/M/17.12.28. 20 HP. AND 'SS'. X.7005 X.7380 X.5005 X.7250 RADIATOR SHIVER. (1) The axle with wheels and springs complete has a definite period on the road. (2) The front…
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'SS' Subframe, modifications for experimental chassis 23-EX and 24-EX, and print alterations.
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Hs/Rm. from DA/EV. c. to BY. SG. c. to CX/Hn. X7380 DA/EVs/M418.12.28. 'SS' SUBFRAME. X.7380 X.7830 We thank you for your Hs/RnLO/LG13.12.28. We agree to make the first subframe cross member…
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Confirmation of wire regarding the construction of an open body for chassis 23-EX by Carlton Carriage.
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X7380 Y7830 CONFIRMATION OF WIRE. HIVES. ROYCAR. DERBY. WW. 20. 12. 28. CARLTON CARRIAGE WILLESDEN WILL MAKE OPEN BODY FOR 23-EX BY JAN. THIRTIETH PROVIDED THEY RECEIVE SUBFRAME BY DEC.27. EVERNDEN.
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Problems with coachbuilder-supplied bodies for 'SS' chassis.
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To DA/EV. from Hs. c. to BY. c. to Wor. c. to Sg. (handwritten) X7380 Hs2/LG27.12.28. BODIES FOR 'SS' CHASSIS. (handwritten) X7830 We are surprised when you make the statement that we have sent…
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Letter addressing inaccuracies in subframes and the plan to correct them during the Christmas holiday.
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contd :- -2- for this work to be carried on during the whole of the Christmas holiday in order to correct these faults. We are sure the inaccuracies you have attributed to us on subframes are due to…
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Note confirming the delivery of a sub-frame for a 23-EX Open Tourer to the Carlton Carriage Company.
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W Copy to Hs. EV. (crossed out) Y7380 Ox/Hn4/EDI/31-12-28. 23-EX. OPEN TOURER. Please note the sub-frame for the above reached Lillie Hall and was delivered to the Carlton Carriage Company before noon…
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'SS' engine mounting, vibrations, and potential alternatives to the standard Phantom chassis.
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Hs. E. ) FROM R. BY. DA. ) c. to BJ. Wor. c. to SG. C. 47380 RL/M4.1.29. X.7005 'SS' ENGINE MOUNTING. X.7250 X.7380 We ought to be better off than standard Phantom because we can have what that…
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'SS' and 20 HP engine mounting, frame flexibility, vibrations, and proposed rubber-based solutions.
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+7380- R1/M4.1.29. Hs. E. BA. EY. from R. c. to BJ. Wor. Sg. c. to FN. CWB. C. 'SS' AND 20 HP. X.7005 ENGINE MOUNTING ETC. X.5005 X.7380 Apparently there was truth in the idea that the frame…
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Design of an engine mounting back plate and rubber supports.
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-2- contd :- The back plate must locate the engine. This might be bent up at the end to form surfaces and have angles bolted to the frame between which the rubber could fit by being bent the same way…
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Design and potential improvements for car and aero engine mountings.
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E. RG. Hs. BY. from R. +7380 RL/M23.1.29. c. to BJ. Wor. Sg. c. to PN. CWB. c. to Mrl Claremont. 'SS' - CAR ENGINE MOUNTING - (AND PERHAPS X.7005 AERO ENGINE DITTO). X.7380 Probably we have settled…
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Technical memorandum detailing the design and installation of the 'SS' engine mounting and rear engine feet.
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R. from E. c. to BJ. Hs. BY. X7360 E5/M28.1.29. 'SS' ENGINE MOUNTING. X.7005 X.7380 We send you herewith print of Led.264s shewing the rear engine feet for the above. These feet are mounted on rubbers…
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Design details and sales viability for an SS chassis open touring body.
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DA/EV. HS. BY. } FROM R. +7380 R1/M.2.29. c. to SG. Wor. E. SS. CHASSIS OPEN TOURING BODY. X.7830 X.7380 Besure you do not have any more ironmongery on this subframe than is necessary. Where the body…
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Design and challenges of an 'SS' engine mounting system, considering dampers, rubber, and frame stiffness.
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E. DA. } HS. BY. } FROM R. C. to Sg. Cx to Wor. 47380. R5/M1.2.29. 'SS' ENGINE MOUNTING. X.7005 X.235 X.7380 We seem limited because of the front hydraulic dampers. I suppose they cannot possibly be…
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Agreed modifications to subframes for SS and India bodies.
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To BY. from DA/EV. c. to Hs. X7380 DA/EV6/M5.2.29. RE. SUBFRAMES. X.5380 X.7380 As a result of our experiences with the mounting of SS. and India bodies we agree to the following modifications to the…
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Scan113 |
Gearbox removal by lifting the body, and the design of the front crossmember.
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contd :- -2- a detachable front crossmember to the subframe, unless it is absolutely essential. We agree that the gearbox must be capable of being removed without removing the unit. This would appear…
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Recommendation for a detachable front subframe cross-member to facilitate gearbox removal.
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Da By WOR / HS X7380 ~~To HSY from RHC.~~ RHC3/BE14. 2. 29. "S.S" SUBFRAME ~~X7310~~ X7830 In order to facilitate the removal of the "SS" Gear Box, when engine is in chassis, we would recommend that a…
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Urgent requirements for a side wheel carrier and a detachable cross member.
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To DA/EV. from Da. +7380 +7600 At Derby. Dal/LGL.3.29. At a conference here today, it was decided that they wanted the side wheel carrier urgently. Could you please get on with this assuming that the…
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Letter to Messrs. Barker & Co. Ltd. confirming the collection of a sub-frame for experimental chassis No. 24-EX.
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W/Hs X7380 Cx/Hn19/BDI 3rd March 1929 Messrs. Barker & Co. Ltd., OLAF STREET, W. 11. Dear Sirs:- EXPERIMENTAL SALOON NO. 24-EX. Confirming our telephone conversation of this morning, will you please…
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Investigation and proposed trial of tubular cross members to eliminate radiator 'shimmy' on an SS frame.
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X. 7380 R. from DA. DAL/M11.3.29. c. to SG. BY. Hs. SS. FRAME CROSS MEMBER. As the results of the road testing seemed to point to the elimination of the cross as being the best solution, at any rate…
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Delay in modifications for the 'SS' car for France and the feasibility of production.
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To Wor. from Hs/Rn. Y7380 Hs/Rml/LG14.3.29. 'SS' CAR FOR FRANCE. X 7380 / X 7941 In making the modifications to the car without the cross, which we hope to take to France on Saturday, we find that we…
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Copy of a telegram instructing a change in frame design from a cross member to large tubes.
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HS BM COPY OF TELEGRAM RECEIVED FROM R. 14.3.29. X7380 ROYCAR. DERBY. ANGLETERRE. PREPARE TO ABANDON CROSS IN FRAME REVERTING TO LARGE TUBES.
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Chassis stiffness, periodicity, and testing methods for the 20 HP & SS Chassis.
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HS. DA. FROM R. BY. c. to SG. Wor. E. X7360 R1/M14.3.29. 20 HP. & SS. CHASSIS. X.7380 X.5380 X.7420 I telegraphed "prepare to abandon cross in frame and revert to substantial tubular cross members". A…
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Continued note on the performance characteristics of smaller road wheels.
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contd :- -2- The smaller road wheels being inferior suggests to me that they are more flexible and resilient on the road and probably somewhat more liable to bounce, and at a lower speed than their…
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Confirming instructions from a telegram regarding chassis modifications, spring stiffness, and connecting rods.
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BY. HS. from DA. X7380 DA1/M22.3.29. SS. FRAME. X. 7380 X. 7520 X. 7410 We have received the following telegram from R :- "DAY - CAR WITHOUT CROSS MEMBER QUITE SATISFACTORY YOUR SPRING LUBRICATION HAS…
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Use of tubular cross members to improve chassis stiffness and manage vibration.
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DA. HS. BY. c. to SG. Wor. X7380 R2/M25.3.29. SS. AND C4. CROSS MEMBERS. X.7380 X.5380 Your suggestion of trying if we can do better with greater stiffness with the tubular type is good, and Hs. has…
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With diagram detailing modifications to 'SS' short chassis frame side members.
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X. 7380 BY. Hs. from DA. DA4/M27.3.29. 'SS' SHORT CHASSIS - FRAME SIDE MEMBERS ETC. With reference to the SS. chassis with 144" wheelbase, of which we understand you are putting in hand a certain…
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Requesting the manual production of 4 sets of 'SS' tubular cross members due to a four-week delivery delay for parts for experimental cars.
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To RHC. from Hs/Rm. 47380 Hs/Rm4/LG27.3.29. 'SS' - TUBULAR CROSS MEMBERS X 7380 On making enquiries in the O.O. we find that they do not anticipate being able to deliver bent tubes and end forgings…
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Modified 20 HP car, chassis 14-G-4, detailing performance improvements and arranging a comparison test.
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To Sg. from hs. c. to Wor. PN. 47380 S E C R E T. Hs1/LG28.3.29. 20 HP. CAR. 45770 As regards the 20 HP. car with increased performance which we promised to have ready for Sales to try at the end of…
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Modifications to an S.S. exhaust, its application to the 20 HP model, and arranging a performance test.
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contd :- -2- For instance, the modifications which have been carried out on the S.S. exhaust, we should like to apply to the 20 HP. As regards the performance and smoothness, this can be judged…
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Alterations to the 'S.S' short chassis frame side members.
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DA. c. HS. X7380 BY6/G.4.4.29. 'S.S' SHORT CHASSIS FRAME SIDE MEMBERS. ------------------------------------ With reference to DA4/M27.3.29. we have already ordered the short type side members with 6"…
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Proposed modifications to the 'SS' exhaust system and L.H. control.
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BY. from DA. c. to SG. Hs. 47380 DA3/M13.4.29. 'SS' EXHAUST SYSTEM. X. 7230 ---------------------- X. 7380 Our enquiry by wire with reference to the gusset plate was because we had seen that it fouled…
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Requesting the creation of urgent linen tracings from drawings for a publication on body subframes.
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BY. from DA/EV. c. to Sg. R. C. c. to Wor. Hs. X7380 DA/EV1/M22. 4. 29. RE. BODY SUBFRAME. X. 7380 X. 7830 We send herewith drgs. and prints of figs. 1 - 10 shewing illustrations which we wish to…
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Chassis weight distribution for an 'SS' model car under different conditions.
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X7380 To BY/CCH. from Hs/Rm. Hs/RmL/LG23.4.29. 'SS' CHASSIS WEIGHT. X7840 With reference to BY/CGill/G16.4.29. In answer to question 1. We have not had an opportunity of weighing an SS. chassis with…
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The dispatch of blueprints and drawings for body/subframes to coachbuilders.
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DA. Sg. Wor. Hs. ---------- X7380 BY/Cgh16/N.29.4.29 Re: Body/Subframes. ---------- We are sending you herewith tracings of the blueprints and drawings sent under cover of your DA/EV1/M22.4.29 which…
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Difficulties and solutions for mounting subframes on S.S. bodies.
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To DA/EV. from Hs/AJL. x7840 c. to Wor. BY. Hs/AJL1/LG1.5.29. BODIES FOR S.S. x7830 In reply to EV4/29.4.29. We agree that the difficulties in connection with mounting subframes on our S.S. are not…
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Overcoming difficulties experienced when mounting the first bodies.
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contd :- -2- with extra cross members it should be overcome. (5) is not difficult after the initial secrecy is over. The whole job will be easily possible provided we take every precaution to…
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Secret memo regarding the issuance of prints for SS cars to coachbuilders, detailing chassis and steering specifications.
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FROM DA/EV. SECRET. X7380 EV/1/13.5.29. C. to Hs. SS. PRINTS FOR COACHBUILDERS. Hs. It has previously been pointed out that we propose getting the first SS. cars completed on lines which will assure a…
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Chassis modifications related to steerings, scuttle, dash, and subframe members, with instructions for coachbuilders.
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- 2 - This again we suggest be made to serve for all the steerings. Again we do not think you need immediately trouble about the short chassis as this drawing will be corrected immediately the need…
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Tracings, a dimensional change for secrecy, and coordination for S.S. bodies being built in Paris.
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- 3 - We would be glad if Derby could put the tracings in hand after having checked over the dimensions. The width between the bonnet hinges at the radiator has been given as 24.075 instead of 23.575…
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Erection instructions and sub-frame particulars for 'WJ' Series Chassis trial cars.
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X 7380 Hs. D/BP1/OG29.5.29 Re: 'WJ' Series Chassis. We have received erection instructions for chassis 1, 2 & 3-WJ, all three R.R. Trials Cars. In respect of chassis 1-WJ there is a note on the…
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Modification of three subframes from left-hand to right-hand chassis specification.
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Hs. X7380 BY/Cgh6/G.30.5.29. S.S: SUBFRAMES. With reference to the three subframes which were built for L.H.S.S., as you will see from another memo we have taken the whole matter up with Sales…
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Conversion, handling, and numbering of S.S. Subframes for various experimental chassis.
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SECRET. W/S (Gx). (crossed out) C. (crossed out) C. Wer/Hy. (crossed out) c. Hs. (crossed out) c. Ev. (crossed out) c. Dft. (crossed out) G. D/Br. (crossed out) X7380 BY/Cgh3/G.30.5.29. S.S.…
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Preparation of name plates and interim stamping of S.S. Subframes.
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W/S (Cr) - from SFT. c. BY. c. Gc. c. Hy. c. Hs. c. DA/BY. c. D/BP. X7380 RECEIVED 31 MAY 1929 SFT.3/B.31.5.29. S.S. SUBFRAMES. ---------- With reference to memo BY/Cgh3/G30.5.29., BY. is now…
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The allocation and modification of S.S. sub-frames for experimental chassis models 24-EX, 25-EX, and 26-EX.
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S/H. Copy to Sn. Copy to Hs. Copy to DA/EV. X7380 Cx/Hn6/EDI/3-6-29. S.S. SUB-FRAMES. BY/Cgh3/G30.5.29. As it is not a simple matter to convert the sub-frame prepared for 25-EX to the drop centre…
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Design and function of 'SS' engine feet for vibration isolation using compressed rubber.
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To BY. from Hs/Rm. c. to Sft. Mx. X7380 Hs/Rm2/LG14.6.29. 'SS' ENGINE FEET. X7005 The object of the SS. feet is to give the max. torsional rigidity to the frame while isolating high frequency engine…
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Blueprint for a rubber engine feet distance piece.
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P, DISTANCE PIECE, D, RUBBER ENGINE FEET DISTANCE PIECE
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The back of a document with a purple ink date stamp.
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RECEIVED 14 JUN 1929 DERBY.
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Engine suspension issues with rubber mounts and a note on reverting to fabric engine couplings.
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X7380 To OY. from Hs/Bm. Hs/Rm2/LG21.6.29. X7005 X.7305 X7380 ENGINE SUSPENSION. With reference to your note of the 2nd. June with reference to engine suspension. The 5th. point at the rear of the…
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The failures of fabric couplings and testing of alternative riveting methods to improve durability.
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contd :- -2- We find that if we spigot the studs on the spider which carryes the coupling we increase the life of the fabric by several hundred per cent. Originally these studs were not spigoted…
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List of answers to questions about the weight, performance, and fitting of body subframes.
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contd :- -3- it is very inaccessible. BODY SUBFRAMES. With reference to your note of 10th. June. Answering your questions in order :- (1) The subframe as a unit weighs 107¼ lbs. (2) We do not think…
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Page 4 of a report on vehicle construction, covering jigs, subframe mounting, sealing, and door adjustments.
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contd :- -4- jigs consisting of a dashboard, steering column and frame side members so that they can work more accurately. (8) The seats are mounted on the subframe through the coachwork construction.…
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Agreed modifications to subframes for mounting SS and India bodies onto chassis.
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BY. from DA/EV. C. to Hs. DA/EV6/M5. 2. 29. RE. SUBFRAMES. As a result of our experience with the mounting of SS. and India bodies we agree to the following modifications to the subframes of both…
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Difficulties of fitting coachbuilt S.S. bodies and proposing a chassis-like rig to ensure a proper fit.
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DA/EV. from AJL. c.c. to BY. Wor. Hs/AJLL/LG22.4.29. BODIES FOR S.S. DA/EV9/M17.4.29. Having mounted all the SS. bodies on their respective chassis here in Derby we are in a position to appreciate the…
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Scheme to supply subframe brackets and templates to coachbuilders for correct fitting.
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Contd :- -2- for Derby to posses an exactly similar rig as far as subframe brackets are concerned - other parts not necessary. All subframes would be despatched to the coachbuilders until Works are…
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Subframe and chassis interchangeability for S.S. models and the relationship with coachbuilders.
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Hs/AJL. from DA/EV. c. to Wor. BY. RE. BODIES FOR S.S. We thank you for your Hs/AJL1/LG22.4.29. It is essential that any subframe shall fit any chassis. To make this possible we have provided ample…
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Challenges of providing information to coachbuilders for new car bodies due to secrecy and experimental drawings.
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Contd :- -2- At the outset, for the first batch of bodies, the information given must of necessity be scanty, owing to secrecy, but we hope to be able to give on the two proposed prints sufficient to…
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Difficulties with mounting subframes for S.S. bodies and proposed solutions.
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To DA/EV. from Hs/AJL. c. to Wor. BY. Hs/AJLL/LG1.5.29. BODIES FOR S.S. In reply to EV4/29.4.29. We agree that the difficulties in connection with mounting subframes on our SS. are not unmountable. We…
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Blueprint of a mechanical component with handwritten annotations suggesting modifications.
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Stamped Text: PRINT ROOM 21 JUN 1929 DERBY. Handwritten Text: SHOULD BE SPIGOTTED. THESE SCREWS ARE NO GOOD. cy from RM 21/7/29.
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Secret memo discussing subframe and chassis interchangeability for 'S.S.' bodies.
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re HS/AJL/LG22.4.29. SECRET. to HS/AJL. from EV copy to RE BODIES FOR "S.S." We thank you for your HS/AJL/LG.22.4.29. It is essential that any subframe shall fit any chassis. To make this possible we…
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Process of providing information to coachbuilders for mounting vehicle bodies.
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EV4/29.4.29. cont. We shall give the coachbuilder ample information to enable him to avoid fouls. If he does not make his body correctly to our prints, it is he that will suffer, for he will have to…
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Letter from the American branch asking a series of questions about the design and effects of a body subframe.
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ROLLS-ROYCE OF AMERICA, INC. SPRINGFIELD, MASS. X7380 OY-15 June 10th, 1929. Mr. E.W. Hives, Rolls Royce Ltd., Derby, England. c - Mr. Robotham. Dear Mr. Hives: Re Body Subframe - Section 7000 We…
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The second page of a letter from Maurice Olley posing questions about subframe design and implementation.
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- 2 - (9) On one example we have seen with subframe the floor has been sunk down in such a way that cleaning, egress from the car, etc., have been interfered with, and the problem of fitting a good…
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On improvements to 'SS' cars, remaining issues with noise and fumes, and proposed comparative tests against a Phantom.
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To R. From Hs. c. to SG. MOT. [Text is struck through] c. to DA. [Text is struck through] c. to FY. [Text is struck through] Handwritten: X7380 Hs1/LG1.7.29. 'SS' CARS. Handwritten: X7380 X7770 X1698…
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Wheel arch clearance issues and testing for the 'WJ' series.
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Cx. (FROM DA/EV. By. ) C. WHR. Cy/ING. C. HO. JG. He/Rn. X 7380 DA/EV1/MA.9.29. X.7380 X.7830. WHEEL ARCH CLEARANCES "WJ" SERIES --------------- At several of the coachbuilders in London the rolling…
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Instructions for modifying wheel arches on bodies under construction and future testing proposals.
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Da/Evl/M4. 9.29 contd. -2- We could only once get a contact. One would describe these conditions as those to be encountered on mountain tracks, or driving through open country without roads. IMMEDIATE…
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Troubles and investigations into rear wheel arch clearance, comparing the W.J. series and Phantom chassis.
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By. } FROM De/EV. HS. } C. CX. HO. C. JG. GY/MNG. SECRET. X7380 Da/Bv1/M5.9.29. X. 7380 X. 7380. REAR WHEEL ARCH CLEARANCE. We have reported to you in another memo some troubles we have experienced…
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Vehicle roll testing, spring deflection, and wheel arch clearance for the Phantom and other models.
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-2- Because of the 10,000 mile test results, in which no complaints have been made, and also because we know that there is less tendency for the body to roll at W.J. series than the Phantom, we…
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Insufficient rear axle clearance on the Phantom II chassis due to sub-frame fixing issues.
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Br. c. Hs. c. Sft. -C. De/Ev. x7380.22 EP10/H26.9.29. re. SUB-FRAME FIXING. PHANTOM II. CHASSIS. In inspecting and testing the first complete car of the Phantom II. type, insufficient clearance of the…
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Fouling issues with the rear wheel arch clearances on the Phantom II model.
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X7380 Hs. } FROM Da/EV. By. } C. HO. JG. MNG. C. Da/EV2/M2.10.29. PHANTOM II REAR WHEEL ARCH CLEARANCES. X.7380 X.7830. In our Da/EVI/M4.9.29, we suggested that the top flange of the subframe should…
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Wheel arch clearance issues and fouling on experimental Phantom II cars.
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x7380. To Da/EV. from Hs/AJL. c. EV. Ex. c. WHR. HU. c. GY/MNG. JG. HS/AJL1/AML.10.29. WHEEL ARCH CLEARANCES - W.J. SERIES. We have gone into the question of wheel arch clearances on our experimental…
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Increasing clearance by modifying the off-side rear wheel arch on chassis 20-EX.
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-2- car is unloaded than when carrying its full complement of passengers. Possibly due to the rear springs offering greater resistance to twisting when under heavy load, thus restricting the roll…
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Wheel arch clearance tests and solutions for brake and tyre fouling issues.
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-3- is obtained by cutting away the rear cushion ends locally. The car was then taken out on to a very rough field and driven over bumps and indentations up to 18" deep i.e. conditions which very few…
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Recommendations for modifying subframes, brake shoe fulcrum pins and nuts, and a report on a rear spring clip fouling issue.
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-4- It is recommended that all subframes should be modified to these dimensions, and that the brake shoe fulcrum pins and nuts be modified. There was another foul reported in the early days which does…
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Diagram illustrating a Phantom II subframe modification to increase wheel arch clearance.
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24.00" (Unaltered) 21.5" (20.75" (Approx)) 1/4" 1/2" Clearance shown etched should only extend 5.00" on either side of rear axle centre line when it may be merged into the brake drum clearance. (All…
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Diagram showing a modification to a Phantom II subframe to increase wheel arch clearance.
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.50" .250" 5" 5" Reduce 1/4" along this line. Reduce 5/16" along this line. 1/4 PHANTOM II SUBFRAME MODIFICATION TO INCREASE WHEEL ARCH CLEARANCE FIG. II.
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Wheel arch clearances, specifically in relation to rear seat accommodation and tyre rubbing.
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SG.) FROM R. C. } BY. } X7380 R. 6/M26.10.29. c. to HS. c. to DA/EV. WHEEL ARCH CLEARANCES. X. 5380 X. 7380 With reference to the rear seats, no doubt the coachbuilders have already seen the…
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Concerns with Coachbuilder modifications to Phantom II subframes for brake drum clearance.
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BY. c. HS c. DA/EV c. J.E.S.Little Hall. +7380. EP/Thn6/H5.12.29. SH re. PHANTOM II. SUBFRAMES. We are being continually worried by Coachbuilders, and shall be faced with a certain amount of…
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Revised subframe design for the Phantom II, incorporating a new steering system and other modifications.
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BY. FROM DA. Copy to SG. Copy to HS. X7380 DA2/M7.12.29. PHANTOM 2. SUBFRAME. We send herewith N. scheme 2993. shewing a layout of an enclosed limousine on the revised type of subframe. The object of…
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Phantom II subframes, attaching a copy of a report received from a tester.
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BM. c. Hs. c. DA/Ev. c. JLS.Lillie-Hall. x7380. EP/Thn2/H10.12.29. re. PHANTOM II. SUBFRAMES. With further reference to our memo EP/Thn6/H5.12.29. we now attach hereto copy of report we have received…
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Required modifications to the sub-frame for clearance to rear brake drums on chassis 49-WJ.
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COPY. Clearances of Sub-frame to rear brake drums:- Measurements taken of chassis 49-WJ at Messrs. Mulliners, Northampton, show that to give the necessary clearances the flanges of sub-frame at rear…
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Various issues and recommendations regarding the Phantom II subframe.
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BY. FROM DA/EV. X7380 DA/EV3/M10.12.29. C. to HS. EP. C. to CX. JLE. PHANTOM 2. SUBFRAMES. (1) EP/ING/H51229. We do not think that we should be very nervous over the latest clearance specified for the…
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Modifications to the frame and a universal subframe for various coachbuilders.
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(2) hole sideways in the main frame. We suggest that the hole in the main frame be a slot instead of a round hole, the width of the slot being the same as the present dia., and the length about .250"…
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Decision to not alter Phantom II subframes until further notice from the Experimental Department.
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+7380 EP. c. Hs. re PHANTOM 11 SUBFRAMES. With reference to FP/Thn2/H.10.12.29. since the subframes are at present cut away to dimensions determined by the Experimental Department, we do not propose…
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Brake drum clearances for the Phantom II subframe and referencing a report by Mr. Goose.
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HS. FROM DA/EV. x9380 DA/EV1/M13.12.29. Copy to - EP. Copy to - BY. Copy to - JLE. PHANTOM 2. SUBFRAME. BRAKE DRUM CLEARANCE. With reference to EP/THN2/H101229., and the report of Mr. Goose, we are…
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Issues and modifications related to the Phantom II subframes.
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DA/EV. C.BY. Hs. JLM. Cx. X7380. EP7/H13.12.29. re. PHANTOM II. SUBFRAMES. Many thanks for your DA/EV3/M10.12.29. We take it that instructions in regard to these modifications will be issued as…
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Subframe clearance issues and required alterations for the Phantom II model.
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X7380 ORIGINAL 87380. BY C. Hs. DA/EV. Wor. JLE. EP3/H14.12.29. re. PHANTOM II. SUBFRAMES. With further reference to our memo EP/Thn6/H5.1229 and EP/Thn2/H10.12.29. and your reply BY/Cgh3/G12.12.29.…
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Procedure detailing the method for testing subframe clearances.
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ORIGINAL METHOD OF TESTING SUBFRAME CLEARANCES. (1) Load the car normal number of passengers as for spring loading instructions. (2) Bounce car up and down until buffers touch axle, front wheels…
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Discrepancy in wheel arch clearances between experimental and production Phantom II subframes and proposing modifications.
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To EV. From HS/AJL. c. to DE/EV. for. c. to EP. JLE. X T830 X7380. Hs/AJL.1/MN.17.12.29. PHANTOM II SUBFRAMES WHEEL ARCH CLEARANCES. In reply to EP3/H14.12.29, EP/TH2/M10.12.29, Da/EV3/M10.12.29 and…
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Subframe modifications to prevent fouling with the wheel arch and procedures for centralisation.
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-2- all concerned (i.e. Works, body builders) immediately, so that all existing subframes can be modified. Will Da/Ev examine the subframe when cut away to this extent and consider whether it is…
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Recommendation to use hard or insertion rubber as packing in place of the current aluminium discs for body adjustment.
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-3- Hs/AJL.1/W.17.12.29.Contd. Referring to (4) in Da/EV3/10.12.29., in addition to the two alterations recommended, we would like to add a third viz: the use of hard rubber or insertion rubber as a…
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Tests for stiffening the Phantom II frame to solve an issue described as 'radiator jellying'.
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x7380 To Da. From Hs/An. Hs/An.2/MJ.18.12.29. x7380 RADIATOR JELLYING. During the last visit to W.W. we understand that the question of stiffening up the front of the Phantom ll frame was discussed…
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The testing and modification of rear wheel arch clearances on the Phantom II chassis.
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S/W (BT.) Copy to - Sg. " " Hs. " " JLR. " " EV. " " HO. X7380 EV6/EBN20.12.29 PHANTOM II CHASSIS Rear Wheel Arch Clearances. In view of the warning which Derby have given us to the effect that the…
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The urgent distribution of prints for a wheel arch clearance modification to avoid a 'further catastrophe'.
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2. EV6/EBR20.12.29 We hope that you will receive these and have time to let HO have the prints in London so as he can distribute them first thing on Monday morning the 30th Dec. We apologise for…
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Modifications to the Phantom IIa rear wheelarch and subframe for larger tyres and improved clearances.
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TO BY. FROM EV. HS. x7380 EVI/21.12.29. COPY TO SG.HS.EP. HO.JIB. REAR WHEELARCH CLEARANCES. PHANTOM IIa With further reference to our EV6/EBN20.12.29. re the above we have now translated our road…
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Suggesting a note regarding the use of chains, a modification to the rear subframe support, and referencing issues with the Phantom II chassis.
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EVI/21.12.29.cont. We suggest that a note re Chains should be added to the Subframe and the Wing Print, somewhat as follows:- Where chains will be used only on rare occassions and for short periods we…
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Instructions and quality issues regarding Phantom II subframes.
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BY/Bgh. c. Hs. c. FA/EV. c. Map. c. Srb. x7380 EP18/H31.12.29. re. PHANTOM II. SUBFRAMES. With reference to your BY/Cgh17/C23.12.29. we now take it that the instructions are final and are arranging…
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Modifications to the Phantom II rear wheel arch clearance and subframes.
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x7380. EV. c. Sg. c. Hs. c. EP. c. HO. c. JLE. BY/Cgh17/G.23.12.29. RE REAR WHEEL ARCH CLEARANCE - PHANTOM II. With reference to EV1/21.12.29. immediately it was realized that the cause of the trouble…
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Proposed alterations for the rear wheel arch clearance on the Phantom II model.
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x7380 To Dm/EV. FROM Hs/AJL. Hs/AJL.1/AJ.31.12.29. REAR WHEEL ARCH CLEARANCE. PHANTOM II. With reference to EV.1/21.12.29., we have examined the proposed alterations as shewn on N.Sch.3003 and are…
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The impossibility of removing the gearbox lid on Phantom II cars with close-coupled bodies.
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S/W. Hs. from Sg. X7380 Sg11/D31.12.29. Re: Phantom II Subframes. You will remember the point raised by PN. when he returned WJ-1, in regard to the impossibility of removing the lid of the gearbox. I…
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Non-standard subframe on Phantom II chassis WJ-1.
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x7380. To Sg. From Hs. Hs.1/WJ.1.1.30. PHANTOM 11 SUBFRAMES. The subframe on WJ-1 is of an odd type. It was a subframe which was made originally for a left-hand chassis. It was afterwards agreed to…
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Disadvantages of fitting larger section 'India' tyres over the standard Dunlop tyres.
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W/S. To C. From Hs/Rn. c. to CX. Da. c. to SY. Wor. X 7380 Hs/Rn.3/MJ.1.1.30. LARGE SECTION TYRES INDIA & OTHERS. We understand from Mr. Bailey that Sales are pressing for all cars to have the wheel…
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Tyre specifications, discouraging larger sections and standardising on Fort tyres for 20' rims.
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-2- (7) They make the rear seat width 1" less at the top of the wheel arch and 2" at the bottom. In view of these objections, we think that customers should be discouraged from fitting tyres of larger…
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Rear wheel arch clearances on the Phantom II, addressing tyre rubbing issues and the need for modifications.
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S/W. BY. from Sg. c. to Her. c. to Hs. c. to Cx. c. to Ey. +7380 Hs. Sg15/D2.1.30. Re: Rear Wheel Arch Clearances - Phantom II. Referring to Evl/21.12.29, BY/Cgh17/G.23.12.29, and Hs/RM3/MJ.1.1.30,…
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Phantom II rear wheel arch clearances, addressing brake drum and various tyre fitment issues.
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x7380 S/s (BY.) Copy to Sg. " " Hs. " " AZ. " " JLE. (Struck through) " " HO. Ev5/EEN2.1.30 PHANTOM II REAR WHEEL ARCH CLEARANCES We have discussed the problem with Sg. who is writing to you. The…
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Request for the dimensions of new proposed 20' tyres and rims to progress with coachwork which has been held up.
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- 2 - difference in diameter or width of section between the Silent tread tyre as now fitted to 21" rims and those proposed of 20" rims. We would be glad if you would send us immediately dimensions of…
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Blueprints for modifications to the rear wheel arch clearances on the Phantom II.
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Bg. c. Wor. c. Hs. c. Cx. c. Ev. X7380 BY/Cgh4/G.3.1.30. RE: REAR WHEEL ARCH CLEARANCES - PHANTOM 11. With reference to Sg15/D.2.1.30. we have now sent to HO. a quantity of blueprints for distribution…
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Letter concerning a subframe fouling a brake drum on chassis 22-WJ and a query about correct coachbuilding procedures.
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Sèvres P/W "Hs" X7380. Ps2/RJ.18/1/30. Re: Chassis 22-WJ - C.B. Fairfax Esq. I recently had a very bad case of a subframe fouling the brake drum. I had but an hour to do the job with the owner…
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Customer complaint regarding weak suspension, traced to a faulty sub-frame fitting by the body builder.
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Sèvres P/S. Ps6/RJ.2/1/30. Re: Chassis 82-WJ - O.B. Fairfax Esq. This customer, who was en route for Nice, called at Sèvres with his car to complain of weak suspension, the car having crashed…
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Subframe and body clearance issues for Chassis 22-WJ, a Phantom II.
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COPY. Cx. Cx/JGG/EBN.6/1/30. Chassis 22-WJ (C.B. Fairfax Esq.) Ref: Attached PsS/RJ.2/1/30. This refers to an early subframe Phantom II, i.e. Windovers' Show car on Windover Stand, and the position of…
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Responding to three queries regarding subframe and body fitting on chassis 22-WJ.
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Ps. From Hs/AJL. X7380 Hs/AJL.2/MJ.22.1.30. Re. CHASSIS 22-WJ.- C.B. Fairfax Esq. Replying to Ps2/RJ.18.1.30. In reply to the three queries you raise relating to subframes:- (1) The body should…
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Brief thank you note regarding information on subframes.
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Sèvres P/W "Hs" x7380. Ps5/RJ.28/1/30. Re: Subframes Hs/AJL2/MJ.22/1/30. Many thanks for the information you have given me on this question. Ps. PS
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Investigations into radiator shimmy, detailing experiments with frame stiffening, axle changes, and wheel sizes.
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R. FROM DA. (held up.) X7380 DAL/M29.1.30. C. to SG. WOR. C. to HS. BY. E. RADIATOR SHIMMY. X.457 X.7250 X.7380 The lines on which we are working on this problem are, stiffening the front end of the…
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Modifications required for fitting a spare wheel carrier for 7' section tyres.
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BY. From Da. C. to HS. X7380 Da.1/MJ.3.2.30. X.7600 X.7460 X.7380 SPARE WHEEL CARRIER FOR 7" SECTION TYRES. We have looked into this question and it appears that it will be necessary to move the top…
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Solutions for radiator shimmy on the Phantom II, including suspension modifications and suggestions from Mr. Royce.
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To Hs/Rn. From EV. COPY TO BY. DA. SG. x7380. EV.3/10.2.30. X.7457 X.7250 X.7005 X.7850 7380. RADIATOR SHIMMY. With reference to your Hs/Rn. 2/MJ.6.2.30. suggesting that we should change to harder…
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Design proposal and sketch for a modified body mounting scheme to address chassis torsion and radiator shimmy.
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-2- pillars and the dash flanges to act as dampers. We prefer this scheme to the one suggested by DA. for the following reasons - (1) It is easier to fit into an existing chassis. (2) The support is…
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Schemes to cure 'radiator jellying', requesting sketches for a single point body mounting.
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BY. From Hs/Rn. X7380 Hs/Rn.3/MJ.15.2.30. RADIATOR JELLYING. K.457 X.7380 X.7250 Of the various schemes which have been got out by Da. and Ev. curing this trouble, the one we are most anxious to try…
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Solutions for 'frame jellying' by testing different shock absorber mountings.
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RHC. From Hs/Rm. X7380 Hs/Rm.4/MJ.15.2.30. FRAME JELLYING. X.457 X.7380 X.7250 In reviewing our tests of this problem we find that the most promising experiment in hand appears to be that of mounting…
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Methods of observation for the phenomenon known as 'frame jellying'.
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To R. From Hs/Rm. (Held up). c. to Sg. Wor. c. to Rg. E. c. to BY. Da. c. to OY. EP. c. to Hm. MX. c. to PN. x7380 Hs/Rm.1/MJ.19.2.30. x457 x7380 x7250 FRAME JELLYING. METHODS OF OBSERVATION. To study…
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Analysis of vehicle frame vibration, specifically 'frame jellying' and its relationship to high-speed wobble.
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-2- and frequency of the mascot movement. NATURE OF FRAME JELLYING. By means of the apparatus above described, we obtained the following information :- (1) Frame jellying is an embryo high speed…
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Analysis of vehicle frame twisting, engine movement, and wobbles, exploring solutions for 'jellying'.
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-3- from side to side, or .187" in either direction from the central position. The greatest amplitude of movement that we have produced by our artificially excited test is .650". Therefore the angle…
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Experiments to counteract 'jellying' by altering frame periodicity and shock damper loading.
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-4- to the axle. Thus a bare chassis is practically immune from "jellying". When a body is fitted the periodicity of the frame is altered, in almost every case to the detriment of the steering and…
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Experiments on vehicle body attachments and frame damping.
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-5- (c) As a further parallel experiment we tried with and without spare wheels in the side position. Carrying the spare wheels at the side made a definite improvement. Altering the Body Attachment.…
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Experiments to improve steering and reduce 'jellying' by altering the front axle assembly, which yielded no improvements.
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-6- to that of a close coupled saloon like 1-WJ. It will be appreciated that this question is somewhat complicated and involved and we are still working on it. Altering the Front Axle Assembly. We…
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Summary of the position on chassis vibration ('jellying') issues and potential solutions.
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-7- SUMMARISING THE POSITION. We think we have explained the difference between different cars. While bodies vary, the most noticeable difference on cars in service will be as to whether the wheels…
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Page discussing the fitting of spare wheels and extra damping.
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-8- . fitting the spare wheels at the side and using extra damping between the scuttle and the dash. HS/Rm.
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Blueprint showing a test rig and recording apparatus for measuring radiator movement.
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Hs 267 TEST RIG RECORDING APPARATUS 1/10 SECS RAD MOVEMENT
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Heavily faded typed document with a purple 'Print Room' stamp in the bottom right corner.
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[Illegible typed text] ROLLS-ROYCE, LIMITED PRINT ROOM 20. FEB 1930 DERBY.
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Five drawings for the application of increased stiffness to the front end of the Phantom II frame.
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To BY. From Da. c. to HS. RIC. 87380 Da.1/WJ.24.2.30. 87380 STIFFENED FRONT END OF FRAME. PHANTOM II. Herewith are five drawings in connection with the permanent application of increased stiffness to…
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Frame modifications, including fitting a larger diameter tube near the radiator and a new shock absorber scheme.
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RHC. From Hs/Rn. x 7380. Hs/Rn.2/WJ.3.3.30. FRAME MODIFICATIONS. N. Sch 3040, 3037. We want to fit the larger diameter tube in front of the radiator and the tube behind the radiator to 22, 23, and…
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Tenth report of the design committee discussing frame jellying, rear axle failure, and battery recharging capacity.
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R. (Held up). Sg. Wor. BY. E. Hs. X7380. Rg.1/L.W.5.3.30. X.457 X.7380 X.7250 X.7535 TENTH REPORT OF DESIGN COMMITTEE. Frame Jellying. This problem was discussed again at some length, both as regards…
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Experimental subframe mounting techniques and tests on body 'booming' and engine roughness.
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To DA/EV. From Hs/Rm. c.c. to Ds. E. 87380 Hs/Rm.1/WJ.12.3.30. SUBFRAME MOUNTING. We have been reading the Rolls-Royce book on "The Body and Subframe". All our experimental car subframes have been…
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Remarks on body mounting, comparing rubber isolation to metal-to-metal contact.
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-2- HS/Rm.1/LL.12.3.30.Contd. We think that your remarks on body mounting on N.Sch. 2623 are misleading if you really meant us to do what you specify in italics on page 19 of the subframe book. We…
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Tests conducted to resolve 'frame and radiator jellying' issues.
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To R. From Hs/An. (Held up). c. to SS. Wor. c. to RS. E. c. to Sy. Da. c. to Cy. EP. c. to Hn. Mk. c. to PN. x7380 Hs/An.6/MJ.12.3.30. x-457 x7250 x7380 FRAME AND RADIATOR JELLYING. We have now…
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Explanation of measurements shown on an attached print, relating to various curves that demonstrate engine mounting, frame stiffness, and radiator movement.
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EXPLAINING THE MEASUREMENTS SHEWN ON THE ATTACHED PRINT. CURVES A & E Demonstrate that the rubber mounting allows the engine to float so that its amplitude of movement is not so great as that of the…
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Historical problems with subframe mounting and the justification for adding a central support.
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X7380 TO HS/RM. FROM EV. EVI/15.3.30. COPY TO E. RE SUBFRAME MOUNTING. P.2. We thank you for your HS/HMI/MJ.12.3.30. re the instructions for mounting a subframe body as given in our book. We do not…
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Methods for mounting the car body to the chassis to reduce rolling and engine vibrations.
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EVI/15.3.30 cont. in order to tie the body to the chassis to resistt rolling. It was thought that no engine or tyre vibrations would reach the body by this joint, the former being so far away thatthe…
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Testing requirements for body sub-frames and engine mountings prior to standardisation.
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EVI/15.3.30. Before we would be prepared to agree to its standardisation we should wish to build and test for 12,000 miles at least two bodies of the open car or cabriolet type as it would be a…
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Wheel arch clearances and rear track dimensions for the P.2. vehicle.
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X7380 SECRET. To By. from Ev. C. to Da. Hs. Sg. OV. SPN. Ev/7.4.30. X.7380 X.7830 X.7810. RE WHEELARCH CLEARANCES 6.750 REAR TRACK, P.2. We send herewith N. schr 3086, shewing the rear wheel arch…
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Proposed improvements for an experimental car to address frame jellying, steering, and engine smoothness.
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To [illegible] From Hs/Rm. C.C. to Da. Contents X 7380 Hs/Rm.4/MJ.14.4.30. X 7380 X 457 FRAME JELLYING. We are about to build up an Experimental car as a model for the next 10,000 miles improvements…
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Requesting drawings for a subframe for the 26-EX car, needed by May 2nd.
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BY. From Hs/Rn. c. to RIC. X7380. Hs/Rn.7/MJ.24.4.30. x7120. 26 -EX. CAR. You will note that the coachbuilders will be ready for this subframe on May 2nd. We should be obliged therefore, if you will…
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Specifying the chassis number 26-KX for a Continental Phantom II and its production schedule.
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To Wor. From Hs/Rn. c. to MC. c. to Mft. c. to D/SP. c. to C/RD. 7380, Hs/Rn. S/MJ. 24.4.30. X 7380 X 7770 With reference to Wor.2/117.4.30. RE. CONTINENTAL PHANTOM II CAR. The chassis number of this…
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Modifications to the scuttle, dashboard, and subframe for a Phantom II experimental car.
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To Ev. from EV. v. Sg. Hs. X7380 EE2/28.4.30. X.4613 X.7380 X.7260 SCUTTLE ISOLATION 38.500 DASH. PHANTOM II We send herewith N.Sch.3093, shewing the scuttle armature and the front end of the subframe…
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Providing instructions on the subframe for a Continental car, specifying it should be the standard Universal Type.
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X7380 To By. from EV. c. Hs. EV6/28.4.30. X.7120 X.7380. RE SUBFRAME FOR CONTINENTAL CAR. The subframe for this car is to be of the Universal Type as already instructed. Since this car is having a…
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Solutions for radiator jellying, inertia dampers, and universal body mounting.
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X7380 Hs/Bn. Da. ) FROM R. E. By. ) (At Le Canadel) C. to Sg. Wor. PN. C. to C. IHS. EP. R1/M5.5.30. X. 7380 X. 457 X. 5380 X. 7250 X. 7830 X. 5250 X. 5830 X. 7005 X. 5005. CAR WORK - RADIATOR…
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Continued memorandum outlining three methods for insulating a vehicle's power unit, body, and passengers from vibrations.
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R1/M5.5.30 contd. -2- road vibrations that reach the body from the frame. We have then :- (1) The power unit and gearbox insulated from the frame (rubber). (2) The body insulated from the frame…
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Issues and required improvements for body mounting and chassis isolation.
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COPY. X7380. (Rec'd at Works 20.5.30) Da. K. HE. c. R. (Held up). c. SG. c. Wor. c. C. c. LHS. c. By. c. JLL. EP7/H21.5.30. X.7005. X.6005. X.7830. X.5830. X.7380. X.5380. X.7230. X.5230. re. BODY…
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Investigation into chassis and body-related noise and vibration issues, including 'boom' and 'rumble'.
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-2- EP7/H21.5.30.Contd. extending the outlet snout. The "dead" fabric type body is dying out in favour of the coachbuilt type. We find the characteristics of the chassis for torque reaction effect and…
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Body mounting, scuttle isolation, and recommendations for front and rear aprons.
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X7380 EP. from De/EV. c. HS. E. LHS. c. C. EV. De/EVL/M24.5.30. X.7380 X.5380 X.7005 X.5005 X.4613 BODY MOUNTING ETC - EP7/H21.5.30. LHS. has given me a copy of the above memo. We were surprised to…
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Modifications to body mounting, exhaust, and subframe support to improve smoothness and reduce fumes.
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Da/M1/M24.5.30 contd. -2- portion of the car it must not be rigidly attached to the chassis frame but mounted on felt or rubber, and that it must have louvres in it to allow the exhaust fumes to pass…
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New cantilever battery support (N. scheme 3114) for the Phantom II model.
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X7) 380. By. from Da. c. Sg. Hs. Da5/M29.5.30. PHANTOM II R. and L.H. BATTERY SUPPORT. X 7772 X.7380 Herewith we send N. scheme 3114. shewing the cantilever battery support for use with the new…
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Design of a cantilever support for a left-hand chassis battery with a universal subframe.
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x7380 By. from Da. c. R. c. HS. Da3/M6.6.30. x7772 x7380. L.H. CHASSIS BATTERY SUPPORT WITH UNIVERSAL SUBFRAME. Replying to By6/G3.6.30, in order to take full advantage of the universal type subframe…
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Body rattles attributed to the P.2 subframe and defending it against blame for the issues.
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X7380 Hs. from Da/Ev. Da/Ev2/M16.6.30. P.2. SUBFRAMES. X.7380 X.7830. C S.C. I am to be told that on Thursday next, at the the use of the body subframe has brought a wave of body rattles throughout…
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The mileage and body condition of five Phantom II cars fitted with sub-frame bodies.
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87380. To R. From HMAJL. c. to ES. WFR. c. to EW. Da. c. to AY. c. to De/EV. (At Conduit St.) HS/AJLL/W.18.5.30. x7380. x7830. PHANTOM 11 SUBFRAMES. _______________________ The following Phantom 11…
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Condition of car bodies, focusing on window rattles and the benefits of using a subframe to increase body longevity.
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-2- Body in good condition except for the two side screens on the front seat which in the first place were a very poor job. 24-XX. Barker Saloon. Total mileage 4,755, of which 3,974 was run in France.…
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The time taken to mount subframe versus non-subframe bodies and the advantages of the subframe.
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-3- the coachbuilders to finish off a car after receipt of the chassis, we are not in a position to give positive times for this job for comparison with non-subframe bodies because we have not mounted…
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Decision to order universal subframes for the N.2 series.
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Hs. C. ROY/MS. X7380. BY2/G.25.6.30. SUBFRAMES - N.2 SERIES. We have held off ordering subframes for this particular series, but we shall have to know quickly whether we are to go for the universal…
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Modifications to the subframe on the 25-EX model, painting, and fitting of accessories.
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X7380 To Hs. from Ev. Ev2/25.6.30. X.7380 X.4605 X.7772 RE : SUBFRAME ON 25-EX. You may have noticed that the subframe of 25-EX is not quite up-to-date in one respect. It was made in accordance with…
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Tests of completed cars detailing issues with subframe support and body alignment.
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EXTRACT FROM :- BY.) FROM DA/EV. HS.? 17380 DA/EV1/M26.6.30. c. to EP. JLE. c. to C. E. REPORT ON TESTS OF COMPLETED CARS. X.7770. X.5770. (1) The subframe centre support is often so low that it is…
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Standardization of the N.2 series universal type subframe, pending a 10,000-mile test.
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PY. From Hs/AJL. x7380. HS/AJL.1/MJ.27.6.30. SUBFRAMES - N.2 SERIES. BY2/G.25.6.30. We are not yet in a position to standardise the universal type subframe. We have not yet fitted the first one on a…
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Process and advantages of using subframes and subframe jigs for body assembly.
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-DA/SV. c. Wor. c. C. c. JLE. c. Hs. X7380 EP5/H27.6.30. re. SUBFRAMES. I attach hereto copy of memo. received from JLE. For some time we have been trying to force the issue of taking full advantage…
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Body mounting alignment with coachbuilder Hoopers and proposing the use of a dummy subframe to ensure correct fitting.
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COPY. S/W EP. LE2/C25.6.30. re. SUBFRAMES. I was discussing the question of subframes with Mr. Carpenter of Hoopers today, and he pointed out that if they build the body on their jig and then, when…
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Typed letter arranging a meeting regarding sub-frames with Mr. Carpenter of Hoopers.
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HS L214/R/30.6.30. [STAMP: RECEIVED JUL 1 1930] X7380 Da/SV c. to Mr. c. to WDF. c. to C. c. to He. Re. - Sub-Frames. You will have received a copy of - EP5/HIA/25.6.30. I understand EP. will be…
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Extract from a report on completed car tests, regarding a request to the Works for more accurate subframe production.
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X 7380 EXTRACT FROM :- BY/Cgn5/G.5.7.30. X.5770. X.7770. REPORT ON TESTS OF COMPLETED CARS. -------------------------- With reference to Da/Evl/M.26.6.30., we give below our reply to the various…
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Extract detailing issues with the P.2. model's rear wheel arch, subframe centre bearing, and subframe manufacturing.
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X. 7380. EXTRACT FROM :- BY. HS. c. to C. Wor. c. to EP. JLE. DA/EV.1/M15.7.30. X.7770. X.5770. (1) P.2. REAR WHEEL ARCH. The width between the brake drum arches on P.2. is less than for P.1. though…
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Body interchangeability and a specific issue with the body runner bracket in the subframe.
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-2- prior to its delivery, so that we could be sure that any subframe will go on any chassis. The interchangeability of bodies is a great virtue to us especially now that we are finding a bigger sale…
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Failure of subframe rear support brackets on P.2. cars and requesting an investigation.
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X7380 Hs. from Da/Ev. c. Sg. c. WHR. Da/Ev2/M22.7.30. P.2. SUBFRAME REAR SUPPORT BRACKET. As you are aware the subframe rear support brackets on FN's and SA's cars have failed. We understand that you…
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Arguing against the use of wooden subframes and in favor of metal ones for RRAI, citing issues with wood in American climates.
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X7380. Ov. } FROM Da/Ev. SRN. } c. Sg. R. c. HS. WHR. Da/Ev4/M22.7.30. X7772 X7380 RE SUBFRAMES FOR RRAI. In view of recent experience we are still more sorry to find that RRAI. are contemplating the…
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Third failure of a P.2 Subframe Rear Support Bracket.
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S/W. To Hs. from Sg. c. to SY. c. to Whr. c. to Ev. Hs RECEIVED JUL 24 1930 H'S X7380 Sg4/D23.7.30. Re: P.2 Subframe Rear Support Bracket. ---------------------------------…
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Failure and redesign of the Phantom II subframe rear support bracket.
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x7380 To DA/EV. From Hs/AJL. c. to Sg. By. c. to Thr. PHANTOM II SUBFRAME, REAR SUPPORT BRACKET. With reference to Ds/Ev2/M22.7.30., the first breakage of this bracket that was heard of was on the…
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Diagram with notes illustrating a design modification to strengthen a bracket at its weak points.
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-2- HS/ALL.2/U.24.7.30.Contd. BREAKAGE SHEWN BY WAVY LINE The new bracket is very much stronger at these weak points. HS/AJL.
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Blueprint for a strengthened rear support for the Phantom II subframe.
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Drawing, Mr 70 Lenvin (58 1/2" track) & S No Lenvin (Wide Track 60") SCHEME 1325 ALL BOLTS AS AT PRESENT USED & IN STANDARD POSITIONS .1875 DIA: RIVETS. ALL SUPPORT DETAILS ARE STANDARD, EXCEPT FOR…
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Deletion of subframes from a contract and the method of mounting bodies without them.
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COPY. X7380. X. 7772. X. 7380. S/W. To Hs. from Sg. C. to Whr. Sg13/D25.7.30. Re: R.R.A.I. I enclose copy of letter I wrote to Mr. Beaver on the 3rd. of July and original of his reply. You might…
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The investigation of subframes for the American operation (R.R.A.I.).
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COPY. X7380. To DA/EV. From Sg. c. to Hs. c. to Whr. Sg4/D29.7.30. X.7772. X.7380. Re: Subframes for R.R.A.I. Arising out of your DA/EV4/M22.7.30 I have received a memorandum from Oy. as per attached…
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Subframe for the L.H. P.ll, its vibration issues, and the suitability of wood in car bodies.
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COPY OF MEMO. FROM OY. DATED 28.7.30. ------------------------------------ SS. Subframe for L.H. P.ll. DA/EV4/M22.7.30 and others. May I suggest that on this subject generally the best plan would seem…
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Letter concluding a discussion on problems with Brewster bodies, signed by Maurice Olley.
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-2- of Brewster bodies is not one of our troubles at all. So I really think it would be best to let this problem work itself out by leaving both sides free to expand their best efforts towards a…
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Sub-frames, spare wheels, and chassis blueprints for the L.A.P. II Chassis project.
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HS X7380 To BY from Sg. Copy to Es. Wer. re L.A.P.II Chassis Sg28/E2.9.30 On my return I have received BY3/G21.8.30. The position in regard to sub-frames is that you will doubtless recollect on my…
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Sg. to BY regarding the supply of blueprints requested by Mr. Beaver.
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To BY from Sg. Sg28/E2.9.30 - 2 - I should be glad to know whether blue prints have yet been supplied. If not, is there any reason why we should not send them a supply forthwith? I have a letter from…
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Tests on the Phantom II chassis regarding the removal of the flexible subframe mounting.
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To Sg. From Hs. c. to WOr. c. to EY. Handwritten: 87380. Hs.2/MJ.3.9.30. Stamped: x???? x7380 x7600 LEFT-HAND PHANTOM 11 CHASSIS. Replying to Sg28/22.9.30. We have carried out tests on the Phantom 11…
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The use of subframes on the 20 HP model and the standard placement for spare wheels.
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-2- in which the final test report states the car to be very good and the owner satisfied. The other advantages which we expect from the subframe, like less wear and tear on the bodywork, can only be…
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Instructing a department to omit the subframe from the American L.H. Phantom II chassis programme.
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Sgs. c. Wcr. c. Hs. x7380. BY3/G.3.9.30. [Stamp: RECEIVED SEP 3 1930] H- ------------------------------ RE L.H. PHANTOM II CHASSIS. ------------------------------ We appreciate the position very fully…
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Request to confirm work on a universal subframe for a short type Phantom chassis.
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[Text Struck Through] from RHC. c. Hs. x7380 RHC1/BEL.10.30. Re: New Car for "R". Hs., has requested us to put in hand a universal subframe suitable for the short type Phantom.Chassis. We shall be…
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Conference report detailing subframe fitting issues and agreed accuracy limits.
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BY. FROM DA/EV. X4380 DA/EV1/M2.10.30. C. to WOR.C.SFT. C. to SG. HS. EP. JLE. re. SUBFRAME - P. 2. This is a report of the conference held at Park Ward's between BY/CGH. EP. JLE. EV. and a Works…
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List of specifications and agreed procedures for body mounting, including subframe dimensions, rear axle alignment, and bonnet contouring.
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(2) (7) We must put on the chassis print a definite dimension from the under side of the subframe to the under side of the body tack rail, thus - [Diagram with labels .500 and +-.150] which will give…
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The subframe for car 27-EX being sent to Messrs. Park Wards and the chassis specification.
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To EV. From Hs. c. to Hn. (Sales). 87^380 Hs.1/MJ.11.10.30. X.7380. X.8992. The subframe for 27-EX. car will be sent to Messrs. Park Wards on Monday. Generally, the specification of the chassis is…
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Questioning the request for wider wheels on a car, citing reduced maneuverability and potential legal issues in Europe.
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To EV. From Hs/Rn. X7380 Hs/Rn.4/WJ.21.10.30. X.7830. X.7380. X.7810. With reference to the new wheels which you called for on R's car being .375" further out on the rear. We always understood that…
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Implications of fitting new wheels to the Phantom II model.
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TO HS/RM. FROM DA/EV. x7380 EV2/24.10.30 x.7810. x.7830. x.7380. RE. PHANTOM II. WHEELS. We thank you for your Hs/Rm4/MJ.21.10.30. I was given to understand that you were anxious to have wheels at the…
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Recommendation to reduce the wheel cone angle to prevent paint damage on the spokes.
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(2) The reduction in the angle of the cone of the wheel would save the paintwork on the spokes from the damage which it now experiences. EV.
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Standardisation document for the universal subframe and related chassis parts.
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RR 785 REVISED (10H) (DG 348 19-7-29) 5M. 6/643. K7380 . COMPLETED 5.11.30 STANDARDISATION of CHASSIS PARTS. Date 19.8.30. No. 7380. Description of Parts. UNIVERSAL SUBFRAME AND CANTILEVER GEARBOX…
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Letter to Mr. Hives discussing the technical advantages of a three-point body subframe support system.
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ROLLS-ROYCE OF AMERICA, INC. SPRINGFIELD, MASS. Btn-1 January 26, 1931. [STAMP: POST RECEIVED FEB 5 1931] [STAMP: RECEIVED FEB 18 1931] [HANDWRITTEN: 87380] Rolls Royce, Ltd., Derby, England.…
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Analysis of sill bending loads and the effects of moving rear support points.
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- 2 - I am enclosing for your consideration my memo of June 23rd last year to Mr. Olley and prints: SK-403 - Analysis of Sill Bending loads for uniformly distributed load. SK-404 - Similar analysis…
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Fundamentals of body construction, load distribution, and bending moments.
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(C O P Y) Btn-1 June 23, 1930. To: Mr. Olley Cc- Mr. Beck Mr. Ainsworth From: Mr. Burton FUNDAMENTALS OF BODY CONSTRUCTION We are now experimenting with some bodies supported only on two points each…
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Fundamentals of body construction, including load distribution and bending moments.
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( C O P Y ) Btn-1 June 23, 1930. To: Mr. Olley From: Mr. Burton Cc- Mr. Beck Mr. Ainsworth FUNDAMENTALS OF BODY CONSTRUCTION We are now experimenting with some bodies supported only on two points each…
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Design analysis for an ideal car sill, comparing uniform and concentrated load calculations.
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- 2 - This curve gives us the depth of an ideal sill of uniform width and variable depth that will satisfy our fundamental requirement of constant curvature under load. This is shown by curve II and…
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Report discussing chassis and body interferences concerning crossmembers, hangers, and wheel housing clearance.
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- 3 - (a) We have to have a body crossmember - i.e. heelboard - at this location and by supporting the body off a crossmember rather than the sill will relieve the sill of torsional loads that a…
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Proposed body suspension designs, experimental body construction, and patent considerations.
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- 4 - Possibly the English rear body suspension which can add lateral loads to the frame is a contributory cause of this, and this will be absent with our proposed 4 point suspension, where our…
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Design improvements for the rear spring front anchorage.
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DA. HS) FROM R. BY (At Le Canadel.) SECRET X7380 R2/M3. 2.31. C. to SG. WOR. C. to E. RHC. HY. JAPAN 3. REAR SPRING FRONT ANCHORAGE - N. SCH. 3201. X. 5410. X. 7380. If we are making new dies I think…
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Strongly disagreeing with a report to discontinue using subframes, citing past failures and suggesting further testing.
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TO. SG. FROM EV. COPY TO HS. RE SUBFRAMES. EVI/7.2.31. X.7380. HS.l/MJ.5.3.31. X.5380. I agree that we ought to reconsider the question of the subframe on P.II. From time to time every thing on the…
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Reviewing the use and cost-effectiveness of subframes, particularly on the 25 HP model.
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To Sg. From Hs. c. to Wor. c. to Da/EV. HS.1/U.5.3.31. X.7380. X.5380. SUBFRAMES. We think it would be a good time to review the question of subframes. If you take the case of the 25 HP., for several…
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From Sg. to Hs. regarding the need to discuss subframes before making a decision.
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R 7380. x 7380. xS380. To Hs. from Sg. re Subframes. Sg8/E9.3.31 Copy to Wor. DA/EV. Referring to Hs.1/MJ.5.3.31 I think before we take any decision on the lines suggested in the last paragraph we had…
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Frame jellying and steering tests conducted on three experimental Phantom II cars with varying configurations.
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FOR FILES. FRAME JELLYING AND STEERING TESTS PHANTOM II. Tests were carried out on the Ashbourne - Buxton Road with three cars - 27-EX. Four sandwich engine feet and std. front springs. 20-EX.…
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Engine booming and induction roar in car 27-EX, comparing its performance to car 26-EX.
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-2- The booming of 27-EX. with all the four engine feet fitted was not excessive up to 65 m.p.h. At 70 m.p.h. there was a considerable roar from the induction system presumably due to the carburetter.…
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Test report on an undamped frame stiffener to combat 'jellying' on car 25-EX.
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Copy for files. UNDAMPED FRAME STIFFENER. X7380 Gry. and Les. on the morning of 21.4.31. tested 25-EX for jellying. The car had low rating front springs, four sandwich front engine mounting, standard…
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'booming' in Phantom II models, relating to sub-frame versus direct-on-frame body construction.
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X7380 To Hs. from Sg. re P.II. Booms. sgll/E27.4.31. In a letter I have received from R. he says: "It has occurred to me that we cannot take the rear feet away from a sub-frame car because it would…
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'Jellying' issue, discussing the stiffening of vertical side members.
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HS. FROM DA. X7380 DA1/M28.4.31. P. 2. JELLYING. X.457. X.7380. With reference to the question of stiffening the side members vertically we have assumed that you would be experimenting with this…
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Confirming the dispatch and modification of a front dumb iron with a bumper pad.
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BY. FROM DA. C. to SG. Hs. FRONT DUMB IRON . J.1. X7380 DA1/M1 5. 5. 31. X. 7380. X. 4522. This is to confirm having despatched to you last night N. sch. 3277. - the front dumb iron provided with a…
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Frame distortion tests measuring the effect of engine mounting on torsional frame stiffness and front end jellying.
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To R. From Hs/Lid. c. to Sg. Wor. c. to E. Da. c. to Ly. X.8380. X.7380. X.457. X.7005. X.8005. FRAME DISTORTION TESTS P.II. E.A.C.VII. AND P.I. We have carried out a series of tests to measure the…
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Vehicle chassis jellying, damping, and engine mounting tests on various car models.
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(2) The next test was carried out on a P.I. car with solid rear feet and sheet aluminium dashboard Fig.VI. The obvious difference is the increase of damp-ing over P.II. in its stiffest condition which…
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Series of five graphs comparing frame deflection angle against torque under various test conditions.
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Graph 1 (Fig I): Title: 20 EX. FRAME DEFLECTION TESTS Legend: STANDARD, REAR ENGINE FEET OUT, STANDARD No BODY Graph 2 (Fig II): Title: 20 Ex. FRAME DEFLECTION TESTS, EFFECT OF EXTRA FRONT…
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From the Print Room showing a date stamp.
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ROLLS-ROYCE, LIMITED PRINT ROOM, 30 MAY 31
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Designs and testing procedures for deeper and stiffer chassis frames.
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X7380 TO HS. FROM EV. EV1/4.7.31. X.7380 C.5380 COPY TO E. RE DEEPER FRAMES. We have been asked to send you designs for a deeper frame for P. 2. and Japan 4. by 'R'. We are setting these out and at…
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Arrangements to test three 40/50 cars without sub-frames.
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Y7380. To Hs. from Sg. re Sub-Frames. Sgl/E13.7.31 Copy to R. Wor. BY. E. DA. You will recollect that some time ago you suggested that we should have a few cars put through without sub-frames in order…
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Outlining five suggestions for producing and testing deeper frame side members for the P.2 model.
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TO HS. FROM EV. X7380 EV1/13.7.31. X7380. DEEPER FRAME SIDE MEMBERS. P2. We have been looking into the ways and means of producing a car with deeper side members, with a view to testing their effect.…
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The trial of cars without subframes, detailing the positive results for the first car (31-GX) after 6,460 miles of continental use.
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RECEIVED 13 OCT 1931 Y7380. S/W. Hs. c. to Sg. Re- Subframes Cx7/KW2.10.31. You are no doubt aware of the fact that we are having three Company's cars put into commission without subframes, in order…
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Removal of subframes for economy, referencing the report on 31-GX and Springfield's production.
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Y7380. To Cx. From Hs. c. to Sg. Hs.4/MJ.3.10.31. SUBFRAMES. Replying to Cx.7/KW.2.10.31. We are interested in the report on 31-GX. without subframes. We think we ought to follow up this question of…
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Record of a telephone conversation discussing balance weights, exhaust pipe failures, and frame fittings for Phantom II and 20/25 HP models.
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E. Hs. BY/Cgh. BY/SS. X7380. (X7010. (X5230. X7380. BY.2/G. 22.10.31. TELEPHONE CONVERSATION WITH WW. 21.10.31. PHANTOM II. BALANCE WEIGHTS. E. remarked over the 'phone that he intended getting out a…
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Continued necessity of subframes due to a new engine mounting system.
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S/W. Hs. (e. to Eg) [e. to is struck through] [RECEIVED stamp with clock face and 1931] x7380. x5380. re Subframes. [re is struck through] Cx8/KW/5.11.31. Replying to Hs4/MJ/3.10.31. with regard to…
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Modified front and rear dumb irons for fitting bumpers to L.H. P.2 cars.
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X7380 BY. FROM DA. DA2/M10.11.31. X7380. C. to SG. HS. P. 2. BUMPER FIXINGS. We send herewith N. scn. 3361 shewing modified front and rear dumb irons to enable bumpers to be fitted, and which will not…
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Experimental deeper side members and cross members for the Phantom II chassis.
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DA. [strikethrough] c. R. c. Hs. X7380. BY.2/G.11.11.31. PHANTOM 11. We have obtained the experimental pair of deeper side members for P.11., which were instructed by you for the purpose of trying out…
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Lack of experience with diamond mounting on car bodies not built on sub-frames for 40/50 and 20/25 models.
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S/W N7380. To Hs. from Sg. re Diamond Mounting X.7005. X.7380. X.5005. X.5380. Sg12/S16.11.31. Referring to the above and the question of not using sub frames on 40/50's, would you please let me know…
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Improvements to the torsional stiffness of frames for larger cars.
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Y7380 HS. FROM R. R3/M28.11.31. Sent off 30.11.31. C. to SG. WOR. BY. re. LARGER CARS. X.634. X.7380. My impression is that we must do something to improve these in torsional stiffness so that the…
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Follow-up memo expressing concern over using diamond mounted engines on chassis with bodies that lack sub-frames.
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S/W 87380. x7005. To Hs. from Sg. re Diamond Mounting Sg22/E30.11.31. I do not appear to have received any reply to Sg12/E16.11.31. The point I am rather concerned about is whether we are going to run…
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Diamond engine mounting and frame stiffness on Phantom 1 and Phantom II cars.
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To Sg. From Hs. n7380. Hs.3/MJ.1.12.31. X7005. DIAMOND ENGINE MOUNTING. Replying to Sg.12/El6.11.31. On the last batch of Phantom 1 cars which had rubber engine feet at the rear, the stiffness of the…
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The schemes for deeper side members for the Phantom II frame construction.
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X7380. DA C. Hs. BY.14/G.8.12.31. PHANTOM 11 - RE DEEPER SIDE MEMBERS. In BY.2/G.11.11.31. we wrote asking for your method of treatment with the deeper members for the frame construction. We would…
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Urgent memo requesting the method for building a chassis with deeper side members.
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X7380 To By. from Hs/Lid. Hs/Lid.7/KT.21.12.31. DEEPER SIDE MEMBERS. P.2. Will you please issue as early as possible the method of treatment to be used in building up a chassis with the deeper side…
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Use of sub-frames on the 40/50 HP chassis, comparing rigidity and 'jellying' on two specific cars.
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S/W Hs....from C. x7380. RECEIVED 20 MAY 1932 C10/C19.5.32 We were discussing recently the question of sub-frames and as to whether we can do away with this feature on the 40/50 h.p. chassis. We…
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Requesting a decision on sub-frames for car bodies being ordered for the Paris and Olympia Shows.
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LES X7380. S/W Hs. C11/C3.6.32 Re Sub-Frames. RECEIVED 4 JUN 1932 With further reference to C10/C19.5.32, we shall be ordering bodies for the Paris and Olympia Shows shortly now, and if it is possible…
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Urging an immediate decision on whether to build bodies with or without sub-frames for cars intended for the Paris Show.
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LES X7380/ same HS S/W Hs..from C. RE SUB-FRAMES. RECEIVED 1932 JUN 13 H With reference to my previous memos. upon this point, I am afraid we must make up our minds definitely almost immediately in…
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The decision to cease using subframes in future car models and to inspect existing cars without them.
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Y7380. To C. From Hs. Re. SUBFRAMES. Cx.15/C.15.6.32. Any future cars we make will be made without subframes. Our recommendation is to leave off the subframe. We should like to send one of our men to…
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Recommending to hold up F.11 material, pending an agreement to delete subframes on future 40/50 hp cars.
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To BY. From Hs. c. to Wor. 87380. Hs.4/MJ.17.6.32. F.11 MATERIAL. We are expecting to get an agreement to delete subframes on future 40/50 hp. cars, so that we recommend you hold up this material if…
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Recommendation to omit a sub-frame and mentioning specific car examples.
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S/W Hs...from C. [Handwritten]: LES See me XJ80 HS [Typed]: C8/C17.6.32 Re SUBFRAMES. [Typed in red]: Hs3/MJ17.6.32 ----- [Stamped]: RECEIVED [Stamped]: 1932 JUN 18 [Typed]: I note your recommendation…
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Cause and a potential solution for chassis 'jellying' by using a sub-frame.
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x7380. RHC. From Hs/Les. Hs/Les.6/MA.6.7.32. JELLYING P.2. x457. A bare chassis does not jelly. We think jellying is caused from the rigidity of the body. We should like a sub frame which is immensely…
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Decision on whether to use subframes for the 40/50 HP chassis for show cars versus customer cars.
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S/W. Rm. X7380. re- Subframes. Cx25/KW8.7.32. Arising out of your test of 61-JS, we have already given instructions that the 40/50 h.p. chassis for Olympia and the Paris Salon need not necessarily…
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Requesting a reply regarding the potential abandonment of subframes on the 40/50-HP chassis.
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S/W. Rm. X7380. Cx5/H.15.7.32. Re: Subframes. Can you yet let me have a reply to my Cx25/KW.8.7.32. on the question of whether we can abandon subframes entirely on 40/50-HP. Chassis. Cx. RECEIVED 18…
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Decision to delete the body subframe on the Phantom II chassis.
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COPY. To R. From Hs. c. to Sg. Wor. c. to C. Rg. c. to Da. By. c. to EP. E. c. to PN. BODY SUBFRAMES. We are asked to give a decision whether we can delete the subframe on Phantom ll chassis. This was…
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Note on subframes and a standardisation sheet sent for agreement.
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x7380. To Cx. From Hs. Hs.3/MJ.18.8.32. x5380. Attached herewith copy of a note we have sent round re. subframes. You will note that we have sent a Standardisation Sheet round to get this agreed to.…
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Discontinuation of body subframes and seeking a timeline for implementation on the 40/50-HP chassis.
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S/W. Hs. c. to Sg. Wor. c. to C. Rg. c. to Da. By. c. to BP. E. c. to PN. X7380 Cx9/H.21.7.32. Re: Body Subframes. Thanks for Hs2/MJ.18.7.32., We are naturally very interested in this as we shall be…
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The plan to delete body subframes for the O.2 series and questioning completion for the N.2 series.
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7380. W/S (Cx). [crossed out] c. Wor. [crossed out] c. Hs. [STAMP: RECEIVED 17 AUG '32] BY/Cgh.15/G.11.8.32. RE: BODY SUBFRAMES. --------------------- With reference to Cx.9/H.21.7.32. the Works will…
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The supply and potential deletion of body subframes for N.2 and O.2 series chassis.
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COPY. W/S (Cx). c. Wor. (Struck through) c. Hs. X7380 BY/Cgh.15/G.11.8.32. RE: BODY SUBFRAMES. With reference to Cx.9/H.21.7.32. the Works will have sufficient material to make subframes for all N.2…
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Persistent issue of radiator wing movement and frame 'jellying' on the Phantom II model.
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X7380 To R. from Hs. c. Sg. Wor. c. E. Da. c. By. Hdy. Hs.S/MA.18.8.32. X457 X7350 P.II RADIATOR WING MOVEMENT AND FRAME JELLYING. This complaint is always with us, in fact some of the completed cars…
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Tests conducted on mounting the radiator to the engine for the Phantom II.
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Re. MOUNTING OF RADIATOR ON ENGINE PHANTOM II. A number of tests were carried out on rough roads in France to find out the value of the radiator mounted on the engine. The tests proved that under the…
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Discontinuation of supplying body subframes due to economic and standardization reasons.
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X7380. S/W.(BY/Ogh) c. to Mr. c. " Hs. Plan II re- Body Subframes. Cx6/KW30.8.32. BY/Ogh15/G11.8.32. In reply to your memo, we are not at all keen to continue supplying subframes, even though you may…
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Inquiry regarding the discontinuation of fitting body subframes on the 40/50 chassis.
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S/W. Byfleet. [struck through] c. to [redacted] Hs. X7380 Cx18/KW12.9.32. re- Body Subframes. Further to my Cx6/KW30.8.32, can you please say yet if it has been decided to discontinue forthwith the…
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The replacement of body subframes with body brackets after chassis 118-MS.
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W/S. c. Wor. c. Hs. X7380. BY./Cgh.2/G.14.9.32. RE: BODY SUBFRAMES. With reference to Cx.18/KW.12.9.32. we have arranged that after chassis 118-MS., subframes will not be supplied, and body brackets…
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Proposal for the deletion of the body sub-frame to reduce cost and weight.
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RR 755 (10M) (19120, 13-10-31) BM. S/7558. COMPLETED 14.10.32. X-7380. STANDARDISATION of CHASSIS PARTS. Date 18.7.32. X No. 7380 Drawing No. Part List Description of Parts. DELETION OF BODY…
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Standardisation of chassis parts.
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STANDARDISATION of CHASSIS PARTS Ref. No. X 4691 Date 15.10.32 The number of the first chassis on which the new part will be fitted..... O.2. Series. Date when chassis will be handed to…
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Request to drill the subframe girders to attach lead weights for testing frame jellying.
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x7380 To RHC. From Hs/Les. Hs/Les3/MJ.25.10.32. Ph2. STIFF SUBFRAME. Will you please drill the overhanging ends of the girders on the above subframe, so that we can attach lead weights. The object…
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List of parts and modifications for the 3rd and 4th crossmembers on the Phantom II chassis to permit wells in the rear floor.
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Y 7380.. BY/HEB16/M.28.7.33. C. Hn/Rm. PHANTOM II. CHASSIS. FRAMES AND FITTINGS SEC:7000. MODIFIED 3RD & 4TH. CROSSMEMBER TO PERMIT WELLS IN THE REAR FLOOR TO "N" SCHS: 3712/4. In accordance with the…
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List of parts no longer required and instructions regarding modifications to the 3rd and 4th crossmembers.
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-2- BY/HEB16/M.28.7.33.-Contd- The following parts will not be required.- K.A1110 Bolt(End Socket(3rd Crossmember). 4 off. K. 1113 " (Rear Spring Anchor Bracket). 8 " K. 9010 Washer(End Socket(3rd…
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Modifications to the frontal appearance of the Phantom II, specifically regarding a dropped front crossmember.
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X7380 To Sg. from E. E.7/HP.5.1.34. c. Mon. Hs. By. EV. re Phantom 2 Frontal Appearance with dropped front crossmember. Referring to your recent memo in which you mention the front apron of the…
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Expressing concern over proposed changes to the starting handle mechanism, which requires disconnecting the thermostat control.
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H3 X7380 To E. from Sg. Re P.II Frontal Sg15/E10.1.34 Copy to Wor.Hs.Br. Appearance with Ev. Cr. Dropped front Crossmember. I am in receipt of E.7/HP.5.1.34 and have carefully examined the blue…
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From Sg. to E. with suggestions for camouflaging a radiator and shutters.
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To E. from Sg. Sg15/E10.1.34 - 2 - I think that the (handwritten: in the) whole radiator and shutters can be neatly camouflaged and I have made one or two suggestions to Ev. to-day, asking him to see…
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Modification to lower the stepirons by two inches on the 25 HP and P.2 models.
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HS X7380 S/W. W of. c. to Sg. E. c. " BY.Hs. c. " C. Hn. Ev. Re- Stepirons - 25 h.p. and P.2. Cx4/KW14.3.34. With reference to Ev2/13.2.34 on this subject, we have now carefully studied some drawings…
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Standardisation of a concealed front cross member, headlamp mounting, and front apron.
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RR 785 (sh) (52674, 10-10-33) BM. 3/262/6. COMPLETED 18.6.34. 40/50 STANDARDISATION of PARTS. Date 1.5.34. X No. 7380 Drawing LEC. No. 3751. Part List Description of Parts. CONCEALED FRONT CROSS…
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Cost estimation for a parts standardisation modification on the 'S' series, including equipment and scrap values.
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STANDARDISATION of PARTS X Est. cost of extra jigs, tools and equipment (Sft/Ws.15.5.34) £665.0.0. This modification is already instructed for 51 in "S" series. The cost of the scrap will be £146.0.0.…
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Standardisation of parts for creating wells in the rear floorboards to obtain lower seating.
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RR 785 (EH) (52674, 16-10-33) BM. 3/262/c. COMPLETED 29.6.34. 40/50 STANDARDISATION of PARTS. Date 12-6-34 Date 1.6.34. X No. 7380. Drawing No. N.S. 3712/4 Part List Description of Parts. REAR CROSS…
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Estimated cost for extra jigs, tools, and equipment for the 'S2' series.
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STANDARDISATION OF PARTS Est. cost of extra jigs, tools and equipment.(Sft/Ws.25.5.34). £282.0.0. Already instructed for 'S2' series.
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Standardising the dropped front crossmember for the 25-HP and Bentley models.
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Y7350 To Hs/Rm. from EV. EV.4/HP.11.7.34. c. W. Ox. Hn. [Struck through] Rm [Handwritten] re Dropped Front Crossmember. The dropped front crossmember on the Phantom has been standardised and will be…
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Test results for Phantom II frame distortion under varying loads.
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To Hs/Gry: 47380 HS/GR. 8/KW.18.3.35. Ph.II Frame Distortion. No front engine crossmember and no radiator member. 1st point Front crossmember } 69" 2nd " C/L Tie Rod Stanchion } 67.25" 3rd " Body…
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Description of a frame test setup with applied loads.
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Frame supported on trestle at/in. centre of points 2 & 3. N.S.R. shackle anchored to bed by cable & O.S.R. supported on trestle. Loads applied N.S. up & O.S. down. Hs/G.Ratcliffe.
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